Hi Steve, Michael, I have just (*very* late I know!) come across the interesting thread in the Looper's Delight mail archive (09 December 2003) where Rick Walker asks insightful questions about how to make loop-based performances more interesting. There are some very interesting replies including one from Steve, but I thought this would also be a good point to raise here where there are some solo bass players dropping by. The questions are basically around how to make a loop-based (or solo bass) performance engaging for the audience, what could be done better and whether the technical aspect of a loop-based performance "gets in the way", or whether it could be "the whole point" of a performance. Anyway, it made me think about interesting shows I've seen involving Steve, Michael and other "electronica" shows involving bands such as Orbital, The Orb, Plaid, mu-ziq and other bands where the artists have to spend a fair amount of time pushing buttons, launching samples, tweaking things etc. I think that both Steve and Michael do well in performance because first and foremost, they have great tunes to play. Steve's performance is made more interesting by the fact he involves the audience in what he's doing - making light-hearted comments about the "pixies" inside the EDP, and letting the audience into the gag when he stops playing, grins and makes for the bar while the loops play out. The one time I've seen Michael play live, there was no need for any extra "stage antics" since his music speaks for itself. I guess the visual spectacle of him playing the bass, loops or no, is engaging enough for a bass player... Do non-bass players appreciate the craft? Maybe not as much, but the music is still good. Seeing him play live lets you into some of the answers of "How does he *do* that?" when you hear his music on CD. But even in the Bass Day 98 DVD when he uses loops in "Teen Town" the music comes first, the technical aspect second. This carries through to the electronica acts I mentioned. I have found most of the concerts I've seen by these guys really engaging, despite there not being *too* much of a stage presence, the music carries through. It has to. So if you're playing solo, what do *you* do to engage the audience? Do you get buried in the technical aspects? Does the environment you play in demand audience attention (i.e. stage gig)? If you play a coffee shop / background music gig can you afford to engage the audience less? Any thoughts?