Male or Female Speakon???

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by lyfestyl, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. A lesson in speaker cables for dummies please. Just recieved Genz Benz Shuttle 6.2-12t and waiting for a matching 12t ext. cab. The Speakon connectors will need to be male/male or male/female or female/female? I would hope a cable included with ext. cab but sadly understand not.

    Thanks,

    Scott
     
  2. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
    Female to Female. Panel jacks are always male AFAIK. Cable ends that are female are available but somewhat rare. And yes, it's hard to tell just looking at them unlike other connectors :) .
     
  3. Female to female. Got it.

    Thanks...
     
  4. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
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    just get speakon cables; you won't find the wrong ends on a cable from any music store, that's a thoroughly exotic part.

    technically, the cable ends are "male", the jacks on cabs and amps "female".

    (ask for "male" or "female" speakon cables and you'll likely get a blank look from the salesguy.)

    what matters is the pinout and number of conductors; the 4-way ends ("NL4") with +1,-1 connected is the usual standard.
     
  5. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
  6. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
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  7. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
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    actually, further googling is showing a bit of confusion on the point.

    that's why you wouldn't ask for "male" or "female" speakons; it's just "cables" or "jacks".
     
  8. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
    They are idiots.
     
  9. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
  10. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    Speakons are just the opposite, though you can't tell by the look of them.
     
  11. Luckydog

    Luckydog

    Dec 25, 1999
    Get a 1/4" to speakon adapter and you'll be ready for it all. Although I suppose it defeats some of the advantage of speakon to speakon, if you have some 1/4" jack cabs, the disadvantage is there anyway.
     
  12. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
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  13. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
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    yep, i see that it's indeed a mess, with neutrik themselves not saying, but mostly it's the opposite of what i thought; "female" ends are on the cables.

    this all confirms my original point though; the OP shouldn't be asking for anything besides "speakon cables".
     
  14. Plug them in, wait 9 months, and see where the baby speakons come out - then you'll know which end is female.
     
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  15. Hi.

    WOW.

    I guess You learn something every day.

    I've always considered the cable connector to be "male" since it has something to sink into something, and the panel connector to be female since ... You know what I mean ;).

    The "male" and "female" designations are used only on STX Speakons by Neutrik though.
    The older ones and Powercon's are just "chassis" and "cable" connectors. And AFAIK there hasn't been a "chassis" style cable connector or vice versa in the market for a loooong time. If ever.

    Regards
    Sam
     
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  16. I do see both male and female Speakon cable ends are available. Looks like G-Benz would make it clear in the owners manual. Anyway, I ordered a cable advertised as Speakon to Speakon....I feel okay that it will work.
     
  17. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
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    no, i saw a bunch of examples online of cables with the opposite connector on them, that would take a normal speakon cable end.

    i've never seen one in the flesh though, it's an odd duck.
     
  18. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
    Yes, that will work 99.9% of the time :) . Now, we could also get into the interoperability of the 2 pole and 4 pole connectors to really confuse everybody :meh: . Fortunately the 2 or 4 pole cable connectors will both work with the most common panel mount connectors (4 pole) .
     
  19. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
    Actually the latest series now has the reverse sex panel and cable connectors (I just looked):
    http://www.neutrik.us/en-us/?q=speakon+stx
    The older series never had a panel mount female but did have the cable male (not easy to find). I believe powercons always had both sexes panel and cable mount and equally used.
     
  20. so Speakons just kind of self-reproduce? I remember learning in biology class about things like this.