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Maple/Maple neck question

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Philbiker, May 23, 2002.


  1. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Hey everybody, what about this? There are two ways to have a Maple/Maple neck:

    1) Install a maple fingerboard on the maple neck just the same way you would put on a rosewood or ebony board. This is often done with highly figured maple for the fingerboard.

    2) Have the neck be one big piece of maple with no seprate piece for the board. I believe these basses require the Fender style Skunk stripe on the back of the bass (which curiously is virtually always Rosewood even on maple/maple necks).

    What's the difference sonically? Is there one? Which is better?
     
  2. steveg

    steveg

    Feb 26, 2002
    Madison, WI
    I doubt there are any significant sonic differences between the two construction types. I've always thought of the non-seperate fingerboard as a cost saving measure since there's less labor involved when making the neck.

    For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the "skunk stripe" is walnut.
     
  3. What's a skunk stripe?

    My MM has a one piece maple neck with built in fretboard without a stripe.
     
  4. jokerjkny

    jokerjkny

    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    you dont want a one piece maple neck.

    its prone to warping and curving much easier down the road. also, if the finish on the maple board is compromised, the neck wood becomes vulnerable as well, causing you massive migrains in the not too distant future.

    yes, these are closer to vintage spec, but its a flawed bit of engineering. you're better off getting the maple fingerboard on maple neck. its what used in almost every bass neck known to man.
     
  5. pumo420

    pumo420

    Nov 2, 2001
    illinois
    if its an all maple neck and fingerboard how would they but the truss rod in? is that what that skunk stripe is there for?
     
  6. Yup.
     
  7. steveg

    steveg

    Feb 26, 2002
    Madison, WI
    In answer to the skunk stripe question, it's the darker wood inlay in the back of the neck.

    It is there because a channel is routed in the back of the neck to install the truss rod. Once installed, it's covered with the wood.
     
  8. Jontom

    Jontom

    Mar 11, 2002
    New York
    The skunk stripe on my Mitey Mite P-bass looks like mahogany. Is anyone else not thrilled with the maple neck/maple body combo? I find it kind of "honky" and bright for bass.
     
  9. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    I love my maple/maple/maple Pedulla Rapture. It has killer tone!

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  10. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    No you don't!!!!!






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  11. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Hey Nino! I'll trade it for one of your Sadowsky 5's!:D
     
  12. JP Basses

    JP Basses

    Mar 22, 2002
    Paris FRANCE
    In fact there are not two but three methods:

    - maple neck + glued maple fingerboard. Truss rod installation is made by the front of the neck and then the fingerboard is glued on. Note that depending on the truss rod type, sometimes a piece of wood comes over the rod in it's channel.

    - "one piece" maple neck. Frets are pressed in directly in the neck wood (no fingerboard). Truss rod installation is made by the back side of the neck. A channel is routed and two holes are drilled at each side of the neck blank. The truss rod is set in with on side anchored in one of the two holes. aThen a piece of hard wood (rosewood, walnut,etc...that is the skunk stripe) is glued over the rod to seal it in the neck. Another piece of hard wood also come over the anchor side hole (see on the headstock side of some strats...)

    - the third alternate method, is the one used by G&L and MM. A malple neck blank is cut in it's center lengthwise, the truss rod channel is routed on the half sides, the rod inserted and then the two halves are glued together using a tough pressing device. The result is a perfect glue joint which makes Davy0 saying that there's no fingerboard and no stripe in his neck :)


    JP
     
  13. I detect a slight preponderance of treble.
     
  14. gfab333

    gfab333

    Mar 22, 2000
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    I've owned several basses with maple necks: a Lakland 55-94, 70s Fender P bass, Fender Jazz bass, and an F Bass BN5. The Lakland has a maple fretboard glued on to a one-piece maple neck; the Fenders have the skunk stripe style one piece maple neck, and the F Bass has a maple fretboard glued on to a three piece laminated maple neck.

    IMHO, the difference in tone between the one piece neck, and the glued on fretboard type of neck, is barely perceptible, if at all. It's not at all like the tone difference that you would hear between a maple vs. a rosewood fingerboard neck.

    On a side note, I did notice that the maple necks which contain graphite reinforcement bars have a noticably different tone. Less highs, less warmth in the high mids, and less growl, for lack of a better description. The necks without the graphite bars sound more appealing to me, granted the bars are supposed to stablize the neck.
     
  15. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    I like a naturally bright bass. I can always cut the highs if I need to. But you can't add highs that aren't there.
     
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  17. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    OK, lets see if this works!!!!



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  18. jacochops

    jacochops

    Jul 2, 2000
    Suzhou, China
    I just got an R Bass 4 string w/amboyna burl top, 3 piece maple neck and glued on maple fretboard. It has an alder body, Barts, a brass Hipshot style "A" bridge, brass nut, and the Haz Lab. I wasn't too sure when I had the bass shipped to me, as I've only owned 1 other maple board bass I've liked; an F Bass studio 5 string. Well, after a good setup and new Sunbeams, this bass is freakin' incredible!! As good if not better than any F****a I've tried (I know that pisses those guys off, but Ray Rogers has it down.....) and doesn't have that high-end clack that most maple boards have...I know some guys like that trebly clack, but not me. This bass has an incredible "bump" in the low (250-380) mids , and no, it's not the Barts. It's the bass. Very even and punchy, nails the Jaco thing, slaps like a 128th street pimp, and cuts through like OJ Simpson! Absolutely the finest bass I've owned! I wish I had a camera, but UG...me still sending smoke signals.... This bass has made me a believer in maple boards again!:D
     
  19. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

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  20. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    I have several of the necks in question, IME they do tend to sound brighter than rosewood for example but my Brubaker doesn't sound like my Lakland and my F sounds like neither. My 78 Jazz is the only bass I have with that particular sound (the sound of a 78 Ash/Maple Jazz;)).

    It's a factor but there are bigger factors in getting the final tone.