Markbass Little Mark Tube 800 vs Subway D800+?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Tom Gotsch, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. Tom Gotsch

    Tom Gotsch

    Sep 30, 2018
    Chicago, IL
    Hey everyone. What are the pros/cons of the Little Mark Tube 800 and Subway D800+? I’ve been looking at the two, and they both look good. What are their characteristics? I’ve noticed people saying that the Mesa is really Tube-y, and I was wondering what the Tube 800 would be like, being a hybrid.

    Let’s discuss
  2. aproud1

    aproud1 Don't surround yourself with yourself. Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Cincy, OH
    I really like both. Could happily gig either. The Markbass isn't necessarily more tubey because it has a tube. But it is a solid head and has that Markbass clean but warm sound. I really like the tone controls on Markbass heads.

    The Mesa has more flexibility and a little more of a baked in tone IMO (which sounds kind of like the D180, an all tube amp). Feels more powerful, can handle a 2 ohm load, is well built and has an excellent transferable warranty.

    If you like the Mesa tone it is a no brainer. It's a killer head. I personally find it easier to get a sound I like from the Markbass. Both are solid reliable amps but Markbass warranty isn't great if you need it. Mesa's warranty, if you need it, is just about the best in the business and is transferrable. A great resale feature.
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  3. JeezyMcNuggles

    JeezyMcNuggles Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2018
    Santa Maria, CA
    I suck, but nobody really notices
    I'd pick a Mesa over a mark any day of the week. But, to make a decision, you would need to watch countless videos, or simply play them both with your current set up. You'll like one more than the other. But only you would know. Everyone who has either is going to preach on the one they have, because they love it. YouTube with great headphones. Try to find ones that have a similar bass and cab as yours. The problem is that the videos you'll find are probably going to be playing through cabs from the same companies. It's much better to take your bass to the closest store that has the amps you're looking at. Sorry to be a downer on the situation. I know you're looking for insight, because your trial options are limited. But really dude, it's the only way besides flipping a coin.

    Flip a coin. The one you called tails on is really the one you want. Because tails has about a 20% greater chance of popping up because of weight distribution. The Head is heavier. It throws off the spin, and makes tails the more likely outcome.

    If you don't know, now you know...
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  4. TrevorG

    TrevorG Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2012
    I wanted to say everything aproud1 said but he said it better. Tried the Messa gear - loved it but I own Markbass because I get the sound I want in seconds
    (and the customer support in the UK is excellent).
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  5. Frodolicious


    May 29, 2018
    Omaha, NE
    I love my Markbass Little Mark Tube 800. It was my first big amp purchase, and got a desired tone in no time. Warm, yet clear describes it perfectly.
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  6. joel406


    Dec 27, 2013
    If those 2 heads are my only choices.

    Mesa D800+ with no thought needed.

    If I had the world to chose from.

    GK MB-800 fusion.
  7. SteveBassJr

    SteveBassJr It all sounds the same, It's all one song!

    Aug 11, 2009
    I had the mb lmt 800, loved it! Used it for a few years. I only sold it because i wanted to try the new Aguilar Ag700. I cant comment on the mesa but, that was my second choice.
    I had a great experience with customer service. My markbass lm3 started to develop some minor issues, i reached out to their artist relations rep via Facebook. he took care of an out of warranty repair, right away. It cost me nothing. I was very impressed. Im not a big name bassist or anything remotely like that.
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  8. Tom Gotsch

    Tom Gotsch

    Sep 30, 2018
    Chicago, IL
    Would you (or anyone else who would like to chime in) consider the Mesa to be more muddy?
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  9. Frodolicious


    May 29, 2018
    Omaha, NE
    I've never played a Mesa, so I have no idea
  10. sstillwell


    Nov 20, 2008
    Good grief, no. Tight, punchy, even crisp and crunchy if you dial it in that way...just about entirely the polar opposite of muddy.

    EDIT: I have multiples of both Markbass (CMD112 with NY112 and CMD102) and Mesa (M6 Carbine into 2x Bag End S115-D and D-800+ into 2x Subway 112). The Markbass units still get used, but only as practice amps where I feel okay leaving them at the rehearsal location. They don't sound bad - I gigged them a lot, but the difference between them and the Mesa is NOT subtle in my opinion...which may not be the same as YOUR opinion...and that's fine.
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
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  11. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    Do you work in a casino? :woot:
  12. JeezyMcNuggles

    JeezyMcNuggles Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2018
    Santa Maria, CA
    I suck, but nobody really notices
  13. Tom Gotsch

    Tom Gotsch

    Sep 30, 2018
    Chicago, IL
    So I’m sorta digging the LMT800, just need a place to test it. Any cab suggestions for it?
  14. Zbysek


    Mar 23, 2017
    Czech Republic
    I like both. MB LMT is a very good amp, D-800+ is a great amp. Mesa has additional features, the most important being (IMO) two bands of parametric mids and HPF. In my part of the world you can get two LMTs for the price of one D-800+. So, if I were you, I would choose LMT unless I lwanted those additional features...
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  15. Dp1363


    Jan 8, 2011
    South Jersey US
    I owned the MB LMT800 (sold it in CL) and now own a Mesa D800 and D800+. IMHO there is no comparison the Mesa has far better tone and way better craftsmanship. Also, factor in the Mesa warranty into your decision.
  16. 77stingray


    Oct 6, 2010
    Skjold Artist
    I have played both. Both sound great. I chose the Mesa because I really like that “baked in tone” that aproud1 is describing. It is in no way muddy! It is rich clear and fat.
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  17. I've owned both. The Mesa is better made, and is backed with better support. It'll also run down to 2 ohms. And my God....the deep switch!

    You really can't make a bad decision here. They are both great amps, but the Mesa wins imho.
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  18. svlilioukalani

    svlilioukalani Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2012
    Seattle, Wa
    I found this thread reading up on my new amp. I would have never considered a Markbass LMT 800 unless I got on at a local pawn shop for $25. My best pawnshop deal ever.

    I was running an 800 and an 800+. In my opinion the Markbass sound more like 800 than different. I am easily able to get my sound out of either one. Quicker with the Markbass cause it has less knobs. Both get deep bright and loud with a nice upper mid presence. I would have never considered Markbass in the past. I think the Guitar Center thing soured me on Markbass. I was wrong on that one. I really like this amp. Too many haters out there.
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