Mesa/Boogie M-Pulse 360 or Hartke 4000?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by cordova, Nov 9, 2001.

  1. cordova


    Oct 24, 2001
    Does anyone have any comments/suggestions on one or both of these amps? I'm looking for my first amp head, and these two are possibilities...

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
  2. Steven Green

    Steven Green

    Jul 25, 2001
    Pacific NW
    The M-Pulse sounds much better IMO than the Hartke. The compression is very nice too. Mesa builds much higher quality products than does Hartke. They are handmade in Petaluma, CA.
  3. Hummm...

    A hand assembled amp from Petaluma California


    A amp assembled in Korea????

    Decisions, decisions....
  4. boogiebass


    Aug 16, 2000
  5. ItchyBass


    Oct 12, 2001
    Eugene, OR
    I have the M-Pulse 600. I retired my 1000 watt power amp to our P.A., as the Mesa has a hell of a lot more punch! When I played through it for the first time I had to run home and change my pants! :eek:

    I also used to have a Hartke 7000. I liked it, but it was very dry. The tube gain added something, but it seemed to color the high mids vs. the low mids like the Mesa does. With the Hartke, any growl I could get out of it tended to get lost in the mix with the guitars. No running home to change my drawers with the Hartke. :p

    While the Hartke claims 700 watts from the 7000 (and what, 400 watts from the 4000?), I don't buy it. Mesa rates the M-Pulse 600 at 600 watts at 4 ohms. They don't mention in publication that at 4 ohms it will produce peaks of over 2400 watts, and more so it can be run down to 2 ohms! I don't know what the 360's ratings are, but I think Mesa'a modest ratings on the 600 really shows some nobility in their attitude towards publishing ratings.

    What was the question again…? Oh yeah… Buy the Mesa!
  6. leper


    Jun 21, 2001
    mesa!!! damn nice amps

    ive had horrible reliability problems with hartke, so mesa pulls even further ahead.
  7. brewer9


    Jul 5, 2000
    Mesa is distinctly a class level above Hartke. I used to own a completely Hartke rig and had numerous problems (both with sound and construction). I then switched up to a completely Mesa rig and for the past two years have had ZERO problems. Mesa all the way!!!!
  8. When a situation like this arises I use a system I have developped. Read the names. Mesa Boogie. Hartke. Mesa has a cooler name. After all, boogie. How much cooler can you get? ;) Seriously though Mesa makes much better stuff. But you might like the sound of the Hartke better. Try 'em out.
  9. Freakapotamus9


    Jun 20, 2001
    how much does the mpulse360 sell for?
  10. cordova


    Oct 24, 2001
    The M-Pulse 360 sells for $1750(cdn) at one of the local music stores.
  11. Freakapotamus9


    Jun 20, 2001
  12. Aenema


    Apr 18, 2001
    if you got the cash get the impulse. ive heard about unreliable hartkes. mesa on the other hand is outstanding in the reliability department. i played an mpulse 360 at guitar center and it rocked. its all up to you though. this is just my opinion. :)
  13. it's $999 here
  14. bassguy187


    Jun 27, 2000
    Nazo, PA
    Mesa is better then any hartke amp,
    i'd take a mesa over almost anything except
    an ampeg tube svt classic.
  15. Robwiersma


    Sep 6, 2009
    Hartke vs mesa ?...... i have owned the Hartke....
    it is super if you dont know better....

    the sound of the hartke is numb and dead while the mesa sounds powerfull and open

    if i had the chance.... MESA!!!!!
  16. Randyt

    Randyt RAAPT Custom Wood Productions

    Jul 21, 2010
    Barrie, Canada
    I cant say enough good things about my Mesa Carbine 6 2x12 combo...just killer!!
  17. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    You can't go wrong with Mesa. I've owned a bunch of them and they are always great amps.
  18. I loved the 360 when I had it. Sounds expensive though.. I don't even think it would sell for that in Australia.
  19. Jeez... I know the Mesa is better but Hartke doesnt have THAT bad of a product. The HA 4000 is one of their less than stellar amps, btw
  20. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005
    I would agree that Hartke makes decent products, and I've witnessed Larry Hartke going above and beyond for his customers right here on TB...

    That being said, IMO Mesa makes some of the best musical gear in the world - I don't think it's possible to go "up" from Mesa - changing from Mesa to anything else is *at best* a "lateral move", IMO... I've been gigging Mesa gear for a few years now, and don't see myself changing brands anytime soon - you can call me a very satisfied Mesa customer...

    - georgestrings