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Message to the younger or new players.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Woodchuck, Oct 7, 2001.


  1. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    I was in GC today, and there was this kid, about 14 or so, that was playing a Fender Jazz with a pick, and he sounded pretty good. When I plugged in, and started playing, he stopped and came over to watch me do quadruplet runs using a slap & pop technique. After I introduced myself, he asked me what music I listened to, and I told him anything that I could get my ears on. He said that he only listened to RHCP. I asked him what else, and he said that's it. No other type of music could help him, or interest him. So I used his hero Flea as an example. If Flea only listened to punk, and nothing else, do you think that there'd be a Flea Bass? No. Flea listened to funk, and used it in his choice of genres. I had a young black bassist come up to me, and asked me about a riff I was playing. I told him it was The Police's "When The World Is Running Down", and he said, "I only listen to and play Black music." ***!?:confused: Guys/gals, I hope you're not limiting yourselves to only the music you like. If so, you're doing yourselves a HUGE disservice. If Les Claypool DIDN'T listen to Stanley and Larry, do you think that he'd be a "Bass Hero"? Probably not. I'm not a huge Country music fan, but I've copped some great techniques from a Patsy Cline record. I've taken something that I heard in a Bluegrass song, and used it in my slapping style. Don't limit yourself to just one type of music. If you do, you'll be one type of bassist. If we've learned anything from the 80's and all of the guitarists wanting to be EVH, is after you've spent all of your time learning that one thing, you're still just a one trick pony, and your one trick ain't in demand no more. Listen to all types of music, you'd be amazed at what you'll pick up from it. Keep in mind, I'm not painting ALL young players with this brush. I've met some young players in a jazz setting that sent me back to the woodshed!:eek:
     
  2. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    What's this "jazz" thing you're talking about??? :confused: ..... I axed my buddies at the "Fieldy Fax" site and no one knew???:confused:
     
  3. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    :D
     
  4. Bass Guitar

    Bass Guitar Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2001
    Words of wisdom from a gigging pro.

    I have CDs ranging from Andrea Bocelli, to pure bass solo albums, from Bach, to nu-metal, jazz to gospel. So there you go. It all helps.
     
  5. I totally agree. Before I started playing bass and guitar (dodges eggs :D), I listened to a lot of rap and nu-metal. Nowadays, I hardly listen to those groups and now listen to a broad range of music, including jazz, R&B, classic rock, blues, funk, etc. etc. I think if you only listen to one type of music, you're playing will become so redundant and tedious. It's good to have a lot of different influences.
     
  6. Dave Castelo

    Dave Castelo

    Apr 19, 2000
    Mexico
    i like to hear everything i can... i hate when people say "I just listen to Ska" or "I´m a Metalhead!" and so on...
     
  7. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    its a great waste to listen to one band or one type of music. funk , emo , rock , jazz , reggae , classical , punk , ...... there is so much out there, if you limit yourself to one, youre missing out. if you want to be a well rounded bass player you need all of em.
     
  8. Lazy

    Lazy

    May 30, 2001
    Vancouver BC
    I agree and disagree. I do believe people should be open to different types of music and should give it a chance! But I don't think people should force themselves to LIKE different music. Music is supposed to be something you like and nobody should tell you what you should be listening to, it should be your choice!

    A friend of mine told me that I had to listen to Rush because Geddy Lee is such an amazing player. While I agree he is a great bassist, I actually had to force myself to listen to the record. Finally I thought, "I gave this a chance and I hate it, so I ain't gonna listen to it." That was my choice and I for one would rather see some kid playing bass who only WANTS to listen to RHCP because that's what he loves than some kid who listens to everything because his favourite bassists likes everything as well.
     
  9. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Oh, I didn't say that he should LIKE every type of music, just don't shut it out, disregard it without listening to it. If a person only wants to listen to, and play RHCP songs, then God bless him. I think a person's happiness should come first. This guy told me that he'd like to play a lot of pick up gigs and get sub calls. Unless it's for a RHCP tribute band, I wouldn't wait by the phone if I was him.
     
  10. Aaron

    Aaron

    Jun 2, 2001
    Bellingham, WA
    I'll pretty much dig anything with a few exceptions. I don't really see a good reason for not keeping an open mind.
     
  11. Erlendur Már

    Erlendur Már

    May 24, 2000
    I agree. I think it just helps to listen to all kinds of music. I know a guitarist who ONLY listens to Iron Maiden, Helloween and few (VERY few) bands that are similar. He said once that musicians who only write in 4/4 sucked but I always say that it´s the soul in the music that counts (or something like that..) And he practices A LOT and is the most boring guitarist I know about..
    And btw..When I started playing bass the only bass players I listened to were Flea and Les Claypool.. Now I can fill an A4 page with cool bassists (I´ve done that in boring classes here in school), and most of them are jazzers.
    I don´t think that post made sense...
     
  12. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Jazz sucks.








    :D
     
  13. I read a quote once that said you should listen to music you do not enjoy more, you should figure out what you do not like about it or maybe find something to like in the style.

    I don't think there is a type of music that I will not listen to or try to listen to, there was even a time that I was simple minded and thought Jazz Sucked. :D
     
  14. Lazy

    Lazy

    May 30, 2001
    Vancouver BC
    I find that metal guitar players are the most stubborn about what they listen to. I'm on the Metal Method message board and all these guys listen to 80's metal and nothing else. Unless the band has shredding guitars and 10 minute solos, they won't listen to it. At least bassists have more of an open mind on average here!
     
  15. Cat

    Cat

    Apr 5, 2000
    Penn State
    I didn't start playing bass on jazz, but I did start listening to music with jazz. I learned a lot about chords and music theory from playing Sax in my school's jazz band. I started playing bass to RATM and then gradually broadened my horizons to rock, metal, funk, jazz, etc. I can definately see myself improving as I incorporate different techniques into different styles.
     
  16. Divide_nz

    Divide_nz Guest

    Oct 4, 2001
    i think its a great idea to listen to heaps of music.
    I've been listenig to lots of different types of music ever since i could listen and its really helped my playing and composing on all 5 of my instruments(thats right 5:D). I've been listening to the likes of Santana and Clapton,ELO,Dire Straits,and all that for ages. At the same time i been listening to 'tallica,Live,RHCP,Sabbath,Led Zep.It all helps, especialy in the composing department.
     
  17. Divide_nz

    Divide_nz Guest

    Oct 4, 2001
    also Jazz rules
    I play bass for my schools Big Band and Jazz Combo and it rocks yeah:p
     
  18. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    In regard to what Lazy says, what I find is that the more types of music you are exposed to, the more types of music you like!

    What makes it even more likeable, IME, is when you hear the music in the culture/setting in which it thrives. For instance, I never got into Carribean salsa until I was sitting on a beach one day with some sugar cane rum on a Carribean island off of Mexico, watching people dancing in a conga line to some of this salsa.......all of the sudden, WHAMMO!!! It suddenly made sense!
     
  19. Well said Warwicknut! People who only listen to and play one type of music are only making themselves clones of whoever they are listening to, only inferior copies.
     
  20. lump

    lump

    Jan 17, 2000
    St. Neots, UK
    I'll listen to and play any genre, but I never use C. I hate that stupid note.

    :D