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metal screaming doesn't take talent

Discussion in 'Bass Humor & Gig Stories [BG]' started by Whousedtoplay, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Whousedtoplay


    May 18, 2013
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  2. Lobster11

    Lobster11 Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    FWIW, I am not among those who say that metal screaming doesn't take talent. I am among those who say that it is obnoxious and painful to listen to.
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  3. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I am among those who think this thread cannot end well. That said, I do not entirely disagree with sentiments posted thus far. Rather than seeming intimidating, most "cookie monster" vocals make me laugh, not quite the intended effect.
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  4. knumbskull


    Jul 28, 2007
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  5. SunnBass

    SunnBass All these blankets saved my life.

    Aug 31, 2010
    Columbia, Mo
    So far, everyone in this thread is a judgemental arse.
    Including myself.
    But seriously, no-one asked if you like it or not.

    But for the record, it's not something everyone can do.
    There is a way to do it correctly.
    It takes practice and discipline to do it night after night, for months and/or years.

  6. Why?

    Why start a thread just to bash something you don't enjoy but others do?

    Pretty dumb.
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  7. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Supporting Member

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  8. 74hc


    Nov 19, 2015
    I'm like WTFITS when watching the video.
  9. knumbskull


    Jul 28, 2007
    For the record I’ve spent the last 2 decades playing in metal bands with guttural vox :D
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  10. SunnBass

    SunnBass All these blankets saved my life.

    Aug 31, 2010
    Columbia, Mo
    Sure, you do you.
  11. Wasnex


    Dec 25, 2011
    The title of the thread seems obvious sarcasm, so I don't think anyone should take offense. I don't care for the vocal style myself when it is used continuously. IMHO, it can sound really awesome when used as an effect. The musical styles this type of vocals are associated with tends to be pretty impressive and has some really awesome technical riffs. But for some reason I find I lose interest fairly quickly with the repetitious patterns.

    I don't totally understand why since a lot of the music I love is really repetitious. I can only guess that their is some subtle quality that other styles posses that is lacking. The riffs and sonic signature catch my ear and provide a few minutes of amusement, and then I am ready to move on.

    No big deal. It's obviously a cool scene and my loss for not being able to truly understand or appreciate it. It obviously takes some serious natural talent to play or sing in the associated styles. Rock on :bassist:!
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  12. I don’t care for the music. But - there is absolutely, unequivocally, a skill set that is needed to be able to perform that type of vocalisation for more than about 3 minutes. If you don’t believe me, try it. Again - I don’t care for it, it’s not my cup of tea, but I understand that there is a talent, skill, and dedidication to practice that is worthy of my respect.
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  13. I used to really dig it when Chuck Billy would get all down-low with the vocals on Disciples of the Watch.
    Later I heard more & more vocalists doing that for the entire album & lost interest.
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  14. lokikallas

    lokikallas Supporting Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    los angeles
    The best singers can do it all, like Corey Taylor, or Mike Patton. They can do death growls and croon.
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  15. lokikallas

    lokikallas Supporting Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    los angeles
  16. Stranger Danger

    Stranger Danger Feel Like A Stranger Supporting Member

    Jan 3, 2010
    Probably for the humor.
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  17. zontar


    Feb 19, 2014
    If you actually watch the video, he makes the point that it does take talent
    Just like singing--some people do it well, some do not.
  18. I love it.
  19. Weberman


    Apr 8, 2014
    Nilbog, Ohio
    Jazz-screaming: now THAT takes talent!
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  20. lancimouspitt


    Dec 10, 2008
    dayton Ohio
    For me it all depends on the band or singer.
    Billy Idol had ( maybe still does?), a killer scream, but it was used more as an effect.
    Even David Bowie could use scream as an amazing effect.
    I had a friend in school who dismissed Springsteen as nothing more than a graveling half screamer.
    I think guys like Davey Havok channelled it really well in some of AFI's music. Particularly there mid to later albums. Burton Bell from Fear Factory was the first guy i remember hearing, that did extreme screaming, only to then belt out arena sized clean notes all in the same verse.
    Bands that did nothing but scream or cookie monster singing didn't really hold my attention for a long period of time. More times than not, such bands had a song or two I really enjoyed but it got old fast.
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