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Metal technique

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by Matthew Bryson, Nov 21, 2001.


  1. Matthew Bryson

    Matthew Bryson Guest

    Jul 30, 2001
    I've been really getting into metal lately - and playing it finger style. I only play for my enjoyment at this point - jamming with my albums - sometimes it's hard to keep up and I know that the bassist on the album is using a pick - but I figure it's just good practice for my fingers and I'll always want to work on improving finger speed. How many other people play metal finger style? How many play finger style usually, but go to the pick for the speed metal?
     
  2. Well, a lot of metal bass players use their fingers, but some of the older metal bassist like Megadeth, Motrohead, etc. use a pick. I play metal,and I use a pick, but I also love metallica, an dI play a lot of it, and Jason uses a pick, but I like the oick sound better.:cool:
     
  3. Steve Harris plays fingerstyle in Iron Maiden. He's really good.
     
  4. cassanova

    cassanova

    Sep 4, 2000
    Florida
    im wierd, when i play metal with my friends, ill start with a pick, then in the same song switch to fingerstyle, or start it fingerstyle and switch to a pick, and do this a couple of times in the same song.
     
  5. red-hot-bassist

    red-hot-bassist

    Sep 18, 2001
    glasgow
    when i played sandman with some guys i played pick, i had to get a sharper sound cos he liked his pedals, (fret wanker)
     
  6. samoth

    samoth

    Apr 9, 2001
    France-Le pontet
    I develloped the same teknic of Alex webster from Cannibal Corpse !!!

    It's amazing but very hard !!!

    Try to use your 4 fingers...At the first time cycle your fingers slowly ( index -> middle -> ring -> auriculair) ... Don't hesitate to train anywhere !!! In the bus when you come back home...at school on your desktop... because you have to train your muscle to do the movement precisely. Increase the speed of the movement slowly.In 2 or 3 months you should do it fastly...

    You should listen some Cannibal corpse's albums to have an idea of what is speed bass in metal !!!

    If you want some other advises contact me at Samoth.samoth @caramail.com !!!!!........

    Bye !!!!
     
  7. bassduder

    bassduder

    Jul 30, 2001
    Canada, GF-W
    can someone tell me some good CC songs to get where i can hear websters technique
    thanks
     
  8. samoth

    samoth

    Apr 9, 2001
    France-Le pontet
    Just type "cannibal corpse mp3" in yahoo.com.....

    Try to download songs of the new album called "Bloodthirst".....

    But if you find the "Hammer smashed face" live song of cannibal !!! Don't hesitate to download it (this song appear in the movie "Ace Ventura" when Ventura enter in a Cannibal live at the beginning of the movie ) !!!
    This song is not the more brutal of the band but there is a cool bass solo at the intro .....

    Enjoy the true death metal !!!
     
  9. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    When I first started playing bass, I really wanted to play finger-style. I play in a cover band and I would like to play the songs using the technique used by the "original" bassist. However, my wrists are so gunked up, I couldn't (and can't) play finger-style with the speed I need for some of the songs we play, so I was "forced" into playing with a pick. Some people consider playing bass with a pick "cheating." I however, do what I do with what I have. ;)

    I know Steve Harris is ungodly fast with his fingers. Another guy that's quite fast is (drumroll), Beefcake the Mighty of (another drumroll) GWAR! Check out some video of him during his Scumdogs of the Universe days.

    EDIT: I know that the guy that "plays" Beefcake has changed a few times over the years and that the Scumdogs and America Beef is not the same musician as the Carnival and Violence Beef. Some of you need to stop PMing me with your little "tips" about the band. ;)
     
  10. i_ love_ bass

    i_ love_ bass

    Nov 12, 2001
    california
    i don't get it??? how can you go faster with a pick????? i sure can't, you have 1 pick, and four fingers, do the math, you can go much faster with fingers then one pick:rolleyes:



    poopy:cool:
     
  11. i agree with you totally there... i dunno what it is, i just can't get the pick to work for me at the moment... but i'm learning... the fastest way i can play with a pick is to incorperate up and down strokes really fast, but i invariably end up dropping the bloody thing... then again, i'm using the fattest pick known to man, so i should probably get one a bit skinnier.

    simon a
     
  12. If you tremelo pick the bass then you can definately go faster than even all four fingers... but why would you want to? if you tremelo the bass or pick it at all for that matter, you lose the depth and thickness that electric bass needs. electric basses emulate the uprights, correct? the electric bass itself can't be as thick as the upright, but playing with a pick doesn't help that.
    I'll take a little finger speed with my metal thank you very much.
    *steps down from soapbox* lol
     
  13. i_ love_ bass

    i_ love_ bass

    Nov 12, 2001
    california

    whats a tremelo pick????
     
  14. tremelo picking, quite simply is just picking on the up and down strokes, very fast. it's very common in death/black metal for guitar. when you do it on bass, the sound is horrible. there was an awesome band around here, and their bass player always did this and it killed the whole sound.
    in my opinion, it's just funner to build up the strength in your plucking fingers. i always enjoy trying to get my pinky/ring finger to do 16ths together :) fun fun fun.
     
  15. totally agree with that one, my boy... i think practicing with a pick is a good idea, though, to give songs some variation... and, i dunno if this would work, but has anyone tried pinched harmonics on bass (i just thought of it this second)?

    keep it real

    simon a
     
  16. leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    jaco did pinch harmonics all the time
     
  17. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    I guess hundreds of pick-using bass players must be wrong. :rolleyes:

    30 Helens agree, "Picks rule!"
     
  18. XxBassmanxX

    XxBassmanxX

    Nov 21, 2001
    Rosman NC
    John Myung of Dream theater does some really quick metal with fingers. Also i like the versitility of not having something in your hands. Seems it would be kind of hard to slap or do 2 staccato you know? BTW dont think im bashing picks. I really like the sound of a pick for some songs. Sometimes it just fits the mood.
     
  19. downstairs

    downstairs

    May 13, 2001
    Pasadena, MD
    I used to play with a pick alot, but then i found out that if you double slap the bass (thumb/pinkie) you get a really neat sound. but i can play finger style pretty fast (i'm gonna start trying the 4 finger thing in a little bit).
     
  20. I always play finger style .. I tried using a pick, but it's just not my 'thing' ... besides your sound is much more warmer and thicker when you play with your fingers ... but that's just a matter of taste ...

    Just watch Steve Harris from Iron Maiden ... he's the reason I started playin' bass .... with my fingers ... ;)