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Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by metalhed, Oct 6, 2001.


  1. metalhed

    metalhed

    Oct 6, 2001
    california
    i would like some help with developing my speed and style, i dont know of many real good bassists that play metal and i would like to know all the aspects of playing (left hand technique,right hand:pick and fingers) so i would appreciate it if i could get some input from fellow players.
     
  2. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    Hi and welcome to Talkbass!

    Technique is not that much style-specific. If you browse through this forum you will find a wealth of valuable information that can be applied to any music you might want to play.

    As for good metal bassists, one of my favorites is Sean Malone.
    He used to play with Death and Cynic. His current projects are Gordian Knot and Aghora. He also has a solo album out called Cortland(sp?).

    He's a player who can seamlessly switch from Death Metal to Jazz and has a very good technique coupled with great musical knowledge.
     
  3. as far as metal goes, it's all in the playing itself. when you blast it high enough, the ability of the bass player doesn't matter...it's whether or not he's using a pick and what kind of amp he's running through. there is a band called 'the ravenous', and though the bassist isn't that good, you can really feel his parts and they're so thick it brings a tear to my eye.
     
  4. metalhed

    metalhed

    Oct 6, 2001
    california
    both of you have good points... thats what i like about tb, but anyway it doesnt matter to me if i stand out, but how good i can blend in and keep up just how i can attribute to the band im in.everyone always notices the bass when its gone, but not many listen to it when its there.
     
  5. Ignus

    Ignus

    Jul 27, 2001
    We play a lot of metal in our band, but not to the extent and speed you're probably used to. The fastest for us is Pantera. You have to decide whether to use a pick or not. I can't remember who said it in Bass PLayer magazine, but when asked if he played with a pick or his fingers he replied "playing with a pick is like giving an elephant high heels to walk better."

    Iggy
     
  6. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Aren't these two completely contradictory points of view in subsequent sentences!! :eek:

    How can both these things be true :

    "it's all in the playing itself" and "the ability of the bass player doesn't matter" :confused:
     
  7. Lovebown

    Lovebown

    Jan 6, 2001
    Sweden
    I think what he meant to say was "It's all in the playing itself" and "whether or not he uses pick or fingers doesen't matter". Well - I hope so atleast ;)

    /lovebown
     
  8. brewer9

    brewer9

    Jul 5, 2000
    Thats a completely ridiculous statement. Talent can be displayed in ANY style of music. If you suck at playing dont say thats good enough for everyone to suck just to justify your own bad playing.

    I've been playing metal bass for 20 years and am damn f'n good. so please sapre me the ignaorance.

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt; you must have have mis-spoke.
     
  9. Lovebown

    Lovebown

    Jan 6, 2001
    Sweden
    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok.

    /lovebown
     
  10. Alex Webster of Cannibal Corpse is also pretty good, I reckon. Listen to "Tomb of the Mutilated", to get an idea of his playing
     
  11. metalhed

    metalhed

    Oct 6, 2001
    california
    im definitely going to use my fingers, im up to 3 and im working on using the fourth with help from that lesson on activebass.com;but im sometimes using a pick.im mostly looking for new imfluences and ideas that i could use in my playing. i've been looking for some stuff on scales,does anyone know where i can find some lessons on them? im sick of how overused the pentatonic scales are.
     
  12. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    A lot of metal bassist use a pick to help them "stand out in the mix."

    metalhed, check out some of David Ellefson's work with Megadeth. "Go To Hell" immediately comes to mind.
     
  13. samoth

    samoth

    Apr 9, 2001
    France-Le pontet
    He is my master !!!He developped a great technique (nb:His tremolo finger technique is incredible !!!).Listen some of Cannibal Corpse album's and you'll understand.
    Crazzzzzzzy but Verrrrrrrry hard ! :eek:
     
  14. That was our (ahem) good friend Dann Glenn. Read his forum (now locked) to understand why he's a total idiot.