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Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Gard, Nov 27, 2005.
Says it all:
Once a drugee, almost always a drugee.
I always thought he sucked as an analyst. Way to go Irvin, still haven't cleaned up your act.
At least Sterling Sharpe was thoughtful and articulate.
Irvin is probably the worst analyst on television...and that's saying something. I hope he wises up and gets off drugs, but I can't say I'm unexcited at the prospect of not having to listen to him anymore.
Wasn't he always yammering on about the importance of cleaning up and how cleaning himself up has helped him so much? I remember him saying if he had cleaned up earlier (obviously implying cleanliness) that he might still be playing.
What a douche.
He always looked "lit up" to me and he was buried in comparison to TJ, Stuart Scott, or Ron Jaworski. I prefer Sal Palentonio, Troy Aikmon, etc. to him anyway.
No big loss.
Just to be fair, we don't know under what circumstances this so called "paraphernalia" came to be in his possession and if it really is drug related. Some police officers just assume that a certain item(s) is associated with drug addicts so anyone with said item(s) is one as well. With his past history you guys have just assumed that he is guilty. He is innocent till proven guilty, remember?
The item(s) could have been from friends in the car or that they left it there. I almost got busted one night just because some a-hole I was giving a ride to dumped a pipe under my seat. I didn't even know the guy had anything. It wasn't mine but thats not how the police officers were looking at it. They decided to just throw it down the sewer drain and cut me a break!
Now as a crappy analyst, he is guilty as charged.
You very well could be right, but even if that is the case, that's still not the crowd to be hanging around if you're a recovering drug user. It may not be fair to call him guilty - but I'd say it's fair to say that, at the very least, he's keeping the wrong company.
EDIT - Actually, this seems to be exactly Mike's story.
Thanks for posting this article Gard. I was going to also, but you beat me to it.
Strange how this pops up over the weekend. I was listening to Fox Sports Radio on Wednesday when James Washington started going off on people who hold the drug charges against Irvin still to this day. For those who do not know, James Washinton played with Irvin in Dallas during the Cowboys Super Bowl wins in the 90's. Washington was talking about how Irvin is such a great guy who is no longer involved with drugs. It may turn out in Irvins favor, I understand that. I think this is going to be one of those deals where Irvin gets some high powered attorneys to bury the case in technicalities while never actually addressing the issue. That stuff makes me mad.
I have never liked Irvin, or any of those flamboyant drug users from those Cowboy teams.
Interesting..Yeah, NO ONE admits to owning a drug pipe it always belongs to someone else.
well, you know.. "bowls" are sold for "tobacco use only". if they found a bowl it was probably just for smoking tobacco, since so many tobacco users just take a hit or two.. and of course bongs are so wonderful for a quick nicotine fix.</sarcasm>
rolling papers are nothing if rolling tobacco is present, if you can show a cop you honestly roll your own cigarettes you are good to go.
if it was "someone else's", then what the hell are you doing with the douchebag?
why was he stopped anyway? doing everything legally behind the wheel? dude had an outstanding WARRANT folks, it's not like he had clean hands here.
bad situations rarely find their way into your life if you are clean. if they do, they are easy to clear up. as a former (and clean for four years) user, and as an occasional roll-your-own tobacco user, i can speak of this first hand on both of the first two counts.
finally, the cops aren't going to let the information out to the public unless they are darned sure something was afoul. why would they choose to tarnish their names on a high profile case if their case was bogus?
Regardless whether he's guilty or not, -he'll walk.
Hey, the dude may just be innocent, I'm not trying to point a finger of guilt at him. Just pointing out that it sure looks bad, based on his past actions, and that he really needs to be more aware of his surroundings, if he IS actually helping a friend recover, as he claims. If that's true, he should have IMMEDATELY disposed of the item in question, not just put it in his car and "forgotten" about it. Poor judgement on his part, if he's telling the truth.
I have to say that I'm highly suspicious of his honesty here, to tell the truth though...
...and, I think he's easily the worst of the guys on ESPN's coverage, if he disappears, I won't miss him one bit.
If I did not know the name or the face and just listened to him talk, I wouldn't even know he actually played the game... If it were not for the fact that he tells you 31 times per broadcast that he played in the NFL.
Even Dan Fouts might have a leg up on him. </lowblow>
Ouch. Dude, you fight dirty.
I need to buy you a beer....
I dunno. I would give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Innocent before proven guilty right? While, if he is telling the truth, it is stupid to leave something like that in the car I do it all the time. I have a football and tennis raquet I have been meaning to take out for weeks now but I never do. I wouldn't do that with a pipe or anything but then again I've never touched drugs and never will.
I think the guy could be telling the truth and I'm a bit surprised at all the aspersions being cast around. I guess all the rest of us are perfect?
I'm right around the proverbial corner my friend...
I'd probably give those honors to Da Coach. I still remember this from last year's playoffs.
"Who's your prediction to win?"
"Oh yeah, why?"
"I don't know, I just think they play better football."
Actually, when I watch Ditka on Tuesday Morning QB on ESPN News, he's pretty good. His shorter segments on Sportscenter do leave something to be desired, but I definitely like him more than Irvin. All Irvin seems to do do is hate on players who, more often than not, don't deserve it.
I still remember the list Irvin made of the best receivers in NFL history. He placed himself third. What an egomaniac.
Hmm...they show the MNF game at Natty's, and I'm always up for a Downtown Brown...say when bro, first round on me!
I don't know if he's guilty.........
....but suddenly that Favre/McNabb comment makes a hell of a lot more sense.
(Hey T.O. ! Are you listenning?)