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Mini Stacks: legitimate amps or gimmicks.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by pica, Feb 2, 2013.

  1. Acoustic came out with the new 260 mkii mini stack and Ampeg has the VR micro mini stack. Are these just fancy practice amps or legitimate amps to gig with? Any thoughts?
  2. One Drop

    One Drop

    Oct 10, 2004
    Swiss Alps
    Don't know the Acoustic but I'd gig with the Ampeg. Great sounding little rig. It all depends o how much stage volume you need or the size of the rooms, etc.
  3. oldcatfish


    Jan 8, 2011
    Both of them sound very nice. Attached to a larger cab, you could gig with them. In fact, if they have xlr direct outs (I'm not sure if they do), you could probably gig them as is, if you had PA support.
  4. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Cute for the practice room, but the Ampeg would be too quiet for all but the smallest gigs.
  5. Excuse my ignorance but with these being only 100W, if you attached it to a larger cab, wouldn't you still be putting out 100W, that constant doesn't change (does it)?
  6. dincz


    Sep 25, 2010
    Czech Republic
    You'd still be delivering 100W to the cabs but more of those watts will be converted into sound and fewer of them into heat. Same power + higher efficiency = more volume.
  7. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    More speaker surface area = louder
  8. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Grand Rapids Michigan

    Fixed that for you.
  9. 5 Wire

    5 Wire

    Feb 1, 2013
    Exactly. Novelty items. Why carry 2 pieces when a nice, louder, lighter combo is easily accessible?

    I cranked the Ampeg - it is rated 100w but I doubt you can squeeze that out of it and it stinks for 5 string. They should at least use decent drivers.

    Haven't heard/played the Acoustic but have no reason to believe it would be any different if not worse.
  10. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    The Ampeg micro VR is 200w @4ohm. Definitely giggable in many situations, even though we all know what Ampeg watts really mean. It does have an XLR out, too. The micro CL, the mini svt-looking stack is the 100w one, and it is more a practice amp. I guess you could call them novelties, but they do a great job of capturing the tone of the big fridges.
  11. fdeck

    fdeck Supporting Member Commercial User

    Mar 20, 2004
    Madison WI
    HPF Technology LLC
    I'm reminded of the Stonehenge scene in Spinal Tap.
  12. NWB


    Apr 30, 2008
    Kirkland, WA
    If you're playing in a metal band without PA support, then they are a gimmick.

    OTOH, if you're playing in a jazz trio or with good PA support, then they're a legitimate option. Of course there are varying degrees in between these examples. YMMV.
  13. jj4001


    Dec 27, 2010
    Providence, RI
    I love my Acoustic 260 as a bedroom practice amp. It sounds pretty good when I'm practicing by myself.

    I hate when I have to use it on coffeehouse style gigs or private parties. If our drummer uses hot rods, the thing is actually plenty loud enough. What I dislike is that I can only get deep lows from the cab. I cut bass, boost treble and mids and it's still all deep bass as soon as I use it in a band setting. I imagine it's because of the cabs strange design- a single 10" in a ported box that could fit two 10's.

    I haven't played the Ampeg micro stacks but I have to say i was very impressed with it when I saw a band gigging one a while back.
  14. jperala


    Dec 1, 2008
    Finland Espoo
    I have ampeg micro cl for practise, yes it is better than combos i have use. Good sounding and looking litle amp.. me like !!
  15. Ask JimmyM how many people he's played to using microVR stack.
  16. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    With everything else being completely equal, a 15" speaker would be louder than a 10" speaker, right?
  17. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    You know, one of the items in the Micro VR's feature/spec list actually reads "Much smaller than Stonehenge". I have to say it made me feel really good about clicking the "buy now" button.
  18. Timmah

    Timmah Supporting Member

    May 19, 2011
    I own and gig my micro vr. 150 watts at 8 ohms (the 1 matching 210 cab) is pretty good volume. It also has an xlr out. It's light, toneful, and it looks good :)

    I wouldn't gig the acoustic micro- te ones I've seen are 100 watts and have 1x10.

    EDIT: mine keeps up with one guitar and a dynamic drummer indoors, and for loud outdoor gigs I've seen them pushed through big cabs- even an 8x10 fridge (I haven't tried that, so ymmv)
  19. One Drop

    One Drop

    Oct 10, 2004
    Swiss Alps
    Ampeg is generally very honest about their wattage ratings.
  20. Timmah

    Timmah Supporting Member

    May 19, 2011
    The ampeg is 150 at 8 ohms, 200 at 4.