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Discussion in 'Recordings [DB]' started by NortyFiner, Dec 26, 2015.
Thanks for the clip.
However One of my pet peeves is the "modern" hip hop usage of "cover." I would prefer "plays" or "interprets."
Does Edgar Meyer "cover" Bach? Are we all covering Ellington or any of our jazz or pop composers?
Peggy Lee covered Lil Greene in the true sense of the word and became famous for doing it. Pat Boone was notorious for recording covers, too. By the way, I'm not disparaging them in any way. That's the way it was, and it's worth remembering it.
Given that we're talking about a free jazz piece, "interpret" would definitely be a better term.
I'm not a John Lewis fan and that did nothing to change my opinion. And i wonder what Bags was thinking, hating Ornette like he did
A few "covers" that don't suck the life out of this tune are -
Old And New Dreams
Quest live in Europe
And dig Freda Payne!
"MJQ" - I've always considered their name, however numerically accurate, to be stylistically ironic.
I like John Lewis on some pre-MJQ things with Lester Young and Bird, but in the MJQ i just can't get into it, the stuff of theirs that i do like is almost in spite of him. There's a big Mosaic box that i periodically think about getting, in large part because that's a lot of really great Percy to pass up, but in the end i just haven't been able do it
That's probably all Lewis, from his and Ornette's joint tenure at Lenox.
I just got hipped to that Freda Payne recording recently, that is seriously bad. Sorry I missed you at the most recent sophomore parade, I had the all drummer group...
Maybe Big P too, he was as into Ornette and Cherry as Lewis was, and he and Lewis were the first big proselytizers for them. He talks about it a little in this interview. And of course Bags was on record as calling Ornette a fraud
Aha, I'm just realizing my initial statement needed a few more words to accurately express my thought. I should have said "And i wonder what Bags was thinking while playing that, hating Ornette like he did".
Absolutely, Art Davis seriously driving the bus all over that record
Yeah, i had all the bass players with Reggie and Schnitter, big laughs. Wanna get some lunch or something in January?
Also, there is the version played by Zietlin, Haden and Granelli: Live at the Trident. I have all my music on the original vinyl albums, so I can't upload them, or at least, uploading is beyond my purview of computer expertise.
I've only heard that album once, but it's an amazing one. I think that album was the first recording of Haden using the drop D tuning for Lonely Woman
It is a wonderful album.
But, learn something every day. I never knew he ever used alternate turnings, but since I never played along with records and never bothered about keys, I can see why it could slip by. He was an amazing player who always managed to impress me. He had that country twang that was so personal. I always said of his playing, and especially soloing, that "you can hear him think."
Never heard this before, thanks for mentioning it Gerry
"MJQ covers Ornette: Lonely Woman"?
Maybe this thread could be renamed - "MJQ smothers Ornette: Lonely Woman".
(I'm a bad person.... I know.)
See (some of) you in Hell!
Just learnt of this version Ornette did with David Izenzon and Charles Moffett
Gotta post this one!
Just found this interesting version Ornette Coleman did with Charlie Haden, David Izenzon, and Ed Blackwell. I love finding all the different interpretations of this piece!