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MM Ray34 Vs SUB Ray4

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Big mark, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. Big mark

    Big mark

    Jun 12, 2010
    Hi guys,
    Where have the corners been cut, these Ray4 look amazing (natural headstock more my thing)
    Help guys, what am I missing?
  2. Are the SUB available for sale already?
  3. Big mark

    Big mark

    Jun 12, 2010
    Yep on sale in Europe now
  4. Cool, I've gotta try them out sime time!
  5. I think the question is more properly phrased "SBMM Ray 34 vs SBMM Sub Ray4".
    Since they technically arent "Musicman" but "Sterling by Musicman'. $1000 diff in price and all.
  6. Big mark

    Big mark

    Jun 12, 2010
    Hi "Cala"
    Totally agree but I think the Sterling by MM Vs MM has been well documented on here
  7. Bobster


    Mar 27, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Here are the respective specs from the Sterling by MusicMan Site:


    Lightweight Ash body
    Maple neck
    Music Man® designed 3-band active preamp
    Music Man® designed Humbucker w/ Alnico polepieces
    Rosewood fingerboard (or Maple depending on finish)

    SUB Ray4

    Solid hardwood bodies
    34″ full scale maple necks
    Medium jumbo frets
    Satin tinted neck finish
    Narrow 38 mm nut width
    2 band onboard active preamp, cut & boost
    Large heavy duty bass bridge with full adjustments (same as Ray34?)
    Easy access truss rod adjuster (same as Ray34)
    6 bolt super strong neck joint (same as Ray34)

    So, different body woods (Ash vs "solid hardwood")
    different neck profile
    different preamp (2 band vs 3 band)
    top mounted output jack

    The site is available here: http://www.sterlingbymusicman.com

  8. maybe a comparison between the USA SUB and the SBMM SUB?
  9. Big mark

    Big mark

    Jun 12, 2010
    Thanks Bob, surfing on an IPhone so a pain to compare. Hmm doesn't seem slot of difference for near on 35% higher cost
  10. Bobster


    Mar 27, 2006
    Austin, TX

    I think the big issues are:

    1. Specifically, what's "select hardwood" does it dent easily, how's the grain?
    2. Who designed the preamp/pickup? You could conceivably blow the whole difference right here with a replacement.
    3. How does the execution/materials quality compare for the finish

  11. Big mark

    Big mark

    Jun 12, 2010
    Bob, very good points. Especially 2.!
  12. Well, in my opinion, the biggest issue, if there is one will be the eletronics, I think that there is where SMMM is cutting of the costs. That said, you can cheaply replace them for some US MM and still in a lower cost than a "original" SBMM bass.

    Does any one know what the nut width is on the Ray 5?
  13. VicKevlar


    Apr 15, 2012
    As I recall, over on the ernie ball forums the rep who announced the line said most of the cost reduction was coming from the wood materials. I think "select hardwood" means a local Indonesian hardwood, I'd guess Agathis like a lot of the Vintage Modified line.
  14. not my point.
    Ray34 is not MM it's SbMM.
    Ray4 is also SbMM.
    I know it's being finicky, but it is the same kind of distinction between Squier and Fender. Not even as close as Fender MIM vs MIA.
  15. Big mark

    Big mark

    Jun 12, 2010
    Point taken "Cala" cheers