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Modern Neck vs. Vintage Neck (Audio Clips)

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by -=DanAtkinson=-, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. I was bored so I decided to record comparison clips of a "modern construction" neck with graphite rods and a "vintage construction neck" without. There still seems to be a few people who insist that graphite messes with the tone, so I'll let you guys be the judge.

    Even with different neck woods they sound very, very, very close.

    MODERN NECK: Pau Ferro & Ebony
    Fingerstyle & Pick Audio

    VINTAGE NECK: Maple & Rosewood
    Fingerstyle & Pick Audio
  2. superblues

    superblues Supporting Member

    Oct 5, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    Thank you. I rarely post, but I always enjoy your comparisons, Dan.

    To my ear the modern neck has a smidge more bite to it, but they sound much more similar than different to me.
  3. wednesdayagain


    Sep 28, 2012
    ^^ what he said.
    The difference probably won't be heard when playing together with others.
  4. darkstorm


    Oct 13, 2009
    Agrees a little bit more bite or snap with the modern neck.
  5. Could the difference be more attributed to the ebony vs. the rosewood? I know that is a battle question but I had to ask.
  6. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    I'm with the first two responses on this, but now who is to say which sounds better? As I usually respond to this sort of thing, no one would be able to discern the difference at a gig. The difference is so subtle that it takes a direct recording, bass only, and careful listening to hear it. Ultimately, so what?

    Thanks for the clips, Dan.
  7. RichSnyder

    RichSnyder Alien Audio / Mesa Fanatic!! Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Columbia, Md
    Okay, I know that body wood doesn't contribute much to the tone but I've always held that the tone is in the neck. Fortunately, there is a little difference, but not much. So I think my train of thought is to go with the brighter neck and just roll down the tone (or treble) a bit.

    Thanks for the clips!
  8. unclejane

    unclejane Guest

    Jul 23, 2008
    That would only make a difference if you took the frets off. And even then it would be very subtle. Ebony is a little harder and would whine a bit more.

    With frets, tho... well the clips tell the story.

  9. BFunk

    BFunk Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Wow, this is surpising to me. The modern neck sound fuller, clearer, crisper and more defined. The vintage neck sounded rounder, warmer, and somewhat muffled. I think I would notice in a mix depending on what else is going on, i.e. presence of heavily distorted guitars.
  10. BFunk

    BFunk Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Ok, on second listen, I take my comments back. There is a difference, but not as much as I first thougt!!
  11. petrus61

    petrus61 Supporting Member

    Wow, you were bored. I preferred the graphite re enforced, whichever that was.
  12. Dean N

    Dean N

    Jul 4, 2006
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Can't say the result surprises me. Nice post! I'm still amazed that some people insist that wood makes a critical difference, but can't propose any possible explanation that actually makes sense.

    The bad news: Now that you're finished with the tests, you can't possibly have a use for that bound & blocked neck. You'll have to mail it to me immediately for proper disposal.
  13. Dean N

    Dean N

    Jul 4, 2006
    Pittsburgh, PA
  14. mongo2


    Feb 17, 2008
    Da Shaw
    Don't forget the influence of the pao ferro vs maple which is the majority of the wood in the neck.
  15. Nobody

    Nobody Banned

    Jul 14, 2004
    Both sounded great. The modern did seem to have a little bit of extra somethin' somethin'. I liked the extra somethin' somethin' so I prefer the modern.

    Thanks for doing this!
  16. bassvid75


    Jan 13, 2008
    Humm,the diferences are not so far from each other,but to me i do prefer the vintage,more round and warm...
    Nice playing :)
  17. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    To me the vintage sounds more 'together' whereas the modern has a bit of a hollow quality to it's tone.
    There really isn't much in it though, to my ear.
    I prefer the vintage neck.
  18. Dredmahawkus


    Nov 4, 2012
    that made me laugh!

    The first one was much more crisp clear and modern sounding. the bottom was classic warm rounded. I am surprised people couldnt tell a difference it was a huge difference!
  19. "Huge" is a strong word. I'd say a huge difference would be the sound of an upright bass vs. a Modulus. That's not what we have here.

    If I put these 2 clips in a typical mix with vocals and guitars you wouldn't be able to pick which is which.
  20. R&B

    R&B Both kinds of music: Rhythm AND Blues! Supporting Member

    Funky! And agreed, in a mix one could never distinguish them. (Hoping I can play half that well someday!). :D

    Thanks for posting.