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More Genocide in South Sudan

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by IconBasser, Jan 15, 2012.


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  1. IconBasser

    IconBasser Scuba Viking Supporting Member

    Feb 28, 2007
    Alta Loma, California
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/w...tml?_r=3&sq=sudan&st=cse&scp=2&pagewanted=all

    horrid news, I will never understand why this keeps happening :(
     
  2. Mazatleco17

    Mazatleco17

    Mar 27, 2008
    Horrible, sadly nobody does anything about it
     
  3. fenderhutz

    fenderhutz Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Harpers Ferry WV
    Absolutely horrid. Not to get political, but other than a pat on the back why would anyone defend South Sudan? Without oil reserves or a strategic place to put surveillance for peeking on another country I doubt the world will help. That is a shame.
     
  4. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Because there are no Muslims involved now, there will be no outcry from Christian groups for the US to lean on the new South Sudanese government.

    The basic fact is that now that South Sudan is independent, the lack of national identity, total lack of infrastructure, the ready availability of military grade weapons are creating some terrible problems.
     
  5. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    South Sudan has a lot of oil.
     
  6. fenderhutz

    fenderhutz Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Harpers Ferry WV
    Ah. That explains why we helped to try and rebuild a new setup then. My ignorance on South Sudan's natural resources. Carry on.
     
  7. Johnny Fila

    Johnny Fila Formerly "The Crusader" Supporting Member

    Nov 21, 2004
    Elmont, NY (near NYC)
    compared to who? their reserves are spit in a bucket compared to the big players.
     
  8. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis

  9. The article stated that the UN has about 5,000 combat-ready peacekeepers across the country, that's about as many troops as a modern US Army Light Infantry brigade, including support personnel. That's not that much density when you think about spreading the force across 240k square miles. And when these militants are coming with a force that's almost twice as large, that's a couple hundred grand in Artillery shells before the odds become even, and probably close to a mil before they become favorable. I doubt there is that many shells in the whole country, much less on any base that might happen to be in range of striking them. Personally I don't blame the peacekeepers for not engaging, as bad as it sounds.

    Also, lots of the places have tribes going back well before the arrival of JC, and everybody has hurt everybody at one time or another. Throw in automatic weaponry, plentiful ammunition supplies, and a lack of opposition and you have a recipe for trouble that is just like the Bloods and Crips just on a WAY bigger scale.

    It sucks.

    Peace,
    Greg
     
  10. Johnny Fila

    Johnny Fila Formerly "The Crusader" Supporting Member

    Nov 21, 2004
    Elmont, NY (near NYC)
    Sudan's total reserves are about 6.8 billion barrels, nothing compared to a place like Iraq or Iran and especially Saudi Arabia.

    Also, the South Sudan, where most of the oil is, expects production to be cut in half in 10 years South Sudan oil production seen shrinking by half: IMF - Sudan Tribune: Plural news and views on Sudan

    So you see, when you put it all in perspective, the free world won't give a crap. They'll have to figure it out on their own.
     
  11. Sav'nBass

    Sav'nBass Supporting Member

    Jan 18, 2009
    Northern Va.
    This is terrible ... but it has been going on in some fashion for quite a while .. The perps & vics may be different .. but the end results are the same..
     
  12. Hi

    Only if Your "quite a while" is about 5000 years, give or take a millenium or so.

    And yet they have survived there in mid/south Africa way longer than us, and without being too political, did pretty well up until the Europeans decided that colonialization is a grand idea.

    Regards
    Sam
     
  13. Fuzzbassian

    Fuzzbassian

    Jan 12, 2012
    It's horrible how hatred breeds.When there is so much other important,nation building work to be done,fighting becomes even more wasteful.If everyone traded there guns for hammers and shovels,think about the great nation that could be prospering.
    Such a horrible waste...
     

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