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More good jazz fusion.?

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by Samelot, Sep 17, 2005.


  1. Samelot

    Samelot

    Jun 23, 2005
    hi guys. i like jazz fusion because im really into weather report and pat metheney. But i would like to know the next step to opening up to more jazz similar to that (less traditional i guess). Can u guys help a bass playa out?
     
  2. Joe Garage

    Joe Garage

    Mar 13, 2005
    You could check out Chick Corea, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jeff Beck.
     
  3. jerry

    jerry Doesn't know BDO Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    Hawaii
    Get any of the Jonas Helborg, Jeff Sipe and the late great Swawn Lane albums, those guys had a fusion mind meld that was just awesome!!! :bassist: :bassist: :cool: :cool:
     
  4. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    Check out Bruford's Gradually Going Tornado with Jeff Berlin on bass. More on the Rock/King Crimson vein, but it's still fusion.

    Also, try Jean-Luc Ponty's Cosmic Messenger, with Ralphe Armstrong on bass.
     
  5. Mike Stern "Play" or Bill Connors "Return" have some fusion going on.
     
  6. Ralphe Armstrong... wow, long time, wonder what he's doing lately?
     
  7. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA

    I'm listening to these guys right now, I was like, "I'm sure someone beat me to it, but I should go in and recommend these guys."

    Well, another standard: Stanley Clarke. His early stuff at least.
     
  8. The Owl

    The Owl

    Aug 14, 2005
    Atlanta GA
    Some other fusion recommendations from The Owl:

    Bill Bruford's Earthworks -anything

    Brand X: Moroccan Roll, Masques, Livestock

    Isotope: Ilusion

    Stanley Clarke: Stanley Clarke, Journey to Love, School Days

    Allan Holdsworth: IOU, Secrets

    Wayne Johnson Trio: Arrowhead, Grasshopper, Everybody's Painting Pictures, Spirit of a Dancer, Keeping the Dream Alive


    Larry Coryell's 11th House: Introducing the Eleventh House, Level One, Live @ Montreux

    Scott Henderson/Tribal Tech: everything

    Wayne Peet's Doppler Funk: BLASTO (featuring Steuart Liebig on bass)

    Steve Khan/Eyewitness: Eyewitness, Casa Loco, Modern Times/Blades

    David Torn: Cloud About Mercury

    Everyman Band (featuring David Torn): Everyman Band, Wihout Warning
     
  9. He was in the Motown movie. I heard he actually does a number of sym-phonic double bass dates.
     
  10. Al Dimeola's "Land of the Midnight Sun". GREAT album, and Jaco even does a guest appearance on one track.

    Stanley Clarke's "School Days". Another amazing album, tons of awesome bass work, both electric and upright.
     
  11. I'm surprised no one mentioned Yellowjackets! Jimmy Haslip is my personal fave right now (along w/Oteil)

    I second the Bruford, but my favorite is 'One of a Kind'.

    Check out Jeff Beck - Wired and Blow by Blow
     
  12. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    Sam-
    If you're looking for some 'current' Fusion-
    Tribal Tech-Thick...the title tune sounds a little like Weather Report. Also, TT's Rocket Science + Gary Willis' 2 solo discs(No Sweat & [/i]Bent[/i]).

    Terri Lynn Carrington-Structure w/ Jimmy Haslip, Adam Rogers, & Greg Osby. M-BASE meets the Yellowjackets.

    Hasidic New Wave-Kabalogy or Psycho-Semetic.
    ...Klezmer Funk-Jazz played in a vibe that sometimes sounds like a mishmash of Bitches Brew-era Miles + pre-Jaco Weather Report + Hendrix.
     
  13. relayer66

    relayer66

    Oct 10, 2002
    Miura, Japan
    Some good recommendations above.
    Let's see...who invented this "jazz fusion"? OH YEAH, it was Miles Davis...
    Bitches' Brew, Live/Evil, A Tribute to Jack Johnson are a few of his albums not to miss. There are many others. The musicians on his early fusion albums (Zawinul, Hancock, Corea, Shorter, McLaughlin) are the ones that went on to form the classic fusion bands.
    You've already checked out Weather Report. Now go listen to:
    Return to Forever...Romantic Warrior
    Herbie Hancock...Headhunters
    Mahavishnu Orchestra...Birds of Fire;
    You can't neglect Blood Sweat and Tears, who did a kind of reverse fusion (rock-jazz as opposed to jazz-rock).
    Also, there are some really good Italian fusion groups from the '70's. If you can find them, check out Perigeo (Geneologia or Azimut), Arti+Mestieri (Giro di Valzer per Domani, Tilt) and Area (Maladetti, Arbeit Macht Frei). Some of these border on progressive rock, fusion's hot little cousin.
     
  14. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    I just got hit with a reminder that the Live/Evil Complete box set from Columbia is due out...bye-bye Ben Franklin.

    And Tony Williams...and Tony Williams Lifetime.

    A great book, IMO, that deals with this entire movement is Stuart Nicholson's Jazz-Rock: A History...B&N usually stocks it, so thumb thru it on your next visit.
    Be warned, though, that you'll be plunking down even more $ for albums/groups that you may have forgotten about...like The Electric Flag(I didn't know Miles dug those guys!)
    ;)
     
  15. dougjwray

    dougjwray

    Jul 20, 2005
    My favorite fusion album of all time is "The Inner Mounting Flame" by John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra. It is pure passion, all the way through. No cutesy noodling. "The Dance of Maya" is a very cool composition in 13/8, I believe. The basic theme, based on some forboding and evil sounding arpeggios, gives way to a section with a blues shuffle feel, then a wild guitar solo, then the blues shuffle feel returns, and then, in a stroke of genius, there's a cross fade where the blues thing recedes and the original theme returns, and you realize that Billy Cobham has been playing the same pattern under both. Anyway, you've got to hear it.
    But the entire album is essential. It has blazing chops, stunning band interplay and cohesion, lots of diverse influences (Hendrix, Coltrane, Indian ragas, etc.) and, most important of all, lots of soul.
     
  16. The Owl

    The Owl

    Aug 14, 2005
    Atlanta GA
    My feelings exactly!!! :D :hyper: :)
     
  17. mike sancho

    mike sancho SANCH

    Feb 10, 2004
    Milwaukee, WI
    some more music from around the same time;
    Larry Coryell and 11th House
    BrandX
    Lenny White Voyage of the Astral Pirates/with Alex Blake on bass
    newer CDs
    Cavemen
    Karizma
    Bill Conners
     

  18. I was never the same after hearing that...
     
  19. relayer66

    relayer66

    Oct 10, 2002
    Miura, Japan
    Damn, how did I forget that guy? Turn it Over, with Jack Bruce on bass, is spectacular. Jack goes off on several tracks, much like he did on Zappa's Apostrophe. Emergency is ok, but no bass. Ego is also good, with Ron Carter on upright. Not to mention the stuff Holdsworth did with him.
    Tony Williams, RIP... :bawl:
     
  20. dougjwray

    dougjwray

    Jul 20, 2005
    "Emergency" has no bass, but it's still fantastic. (Larry Young, the organist, does quite well with the pedals!) I especially love the track called "Spectrum." Lifetime had the rough edges and ugliness so essential to great art and so missing in later fusion groups like, say, Spyro Gyra. :spit: