Yes, I'm a dummy. Yes, I'm fighting the sasser worm. I've got some good advice from talkbass members and I think I'm making progress. I'm definitely learning. Last night, I was able to get the Windows XP firewall enabled and stay on long enough to get my 17 critical updates from the microsoft site. This was on a dial up, so I had to let it download over night. When I got up this morning, I expected the download to be complete - which I believe it was, but the wife had already done something. The screen said please wait while your updates are installed or something to that effect. It didn't really indicate that anything was happening - nothing indicating the status (no 5% complete or anything like that) I asked her if she had found the computer that way this morning, or if she had done anything. She said "I just clicked okay" I asked "okay to what, what did it say?" and of course she had no idea, she was slightly irritated that I even asked. "I don't know - I didnt read it, I just clicked okay" so the computer is on this screen that says please wait while your updates install - I have to assume that my downloads completed and that we must wait for them to install (but it's not really indicating that this is happening). We are pretty impatient people and started thinking it was "stuck" - so I hit the refresh button, I don't know if that was good or bad or even did anything at all. The screen still said the same thing. When I left for work it still looked exactly the same. I just called to see if it has done anything different yet and she checked - she said that now it is just a white screen (but apparently still connected) So Are my updates from microsoft being installed on the computer, is this what it looks like while that is happening? Is there a way to check and see if they are maybe installed, or still being installed? What happens if you have completed downloading windows updates but fail to install them - can you go offline and reboot and install them later or does the instillation need to complete now? I just don't want to get stuck in the final stages of this long process and have to do it all over. Sorry for the long post, my week long crash course in computer viruses and windows technology is driving me crazy!