Moses Graphite...

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Count Bassie, Jun 22, 2020.

  1. Who's got experience with these replacement necks? I've got a 5 str OLP MM type bass with a Moses, and I've got a question or two about it...

    I'll appreciate your time, thank you!
  2. Just to prove it happened...
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  3. ugly_bassplayer


    Jan 21, 2009
    Hope you have a good one, I had one about 10-15 years ago on my stingray, it was absolutely horrible.

    Easily one of the worst purchases I ever made.

    QC was terrible. For the price I paid I got a piece of garbage.

    -Asked for a stingray neck, got jazz bass sized nut and radius (he said it was my fault.)
    -fret work was horrible. (High frets, very sharp edges, 12 fret and up the frets lifted after 1 month)
    -Very unstable neck (yep you read that right)
    -The truss rod nut got “stuck”, had to send it back for repairs. (Took months to get it back.)
    I warped an Allen key trying to set the neck relief.

    I wonder how they are still in business, for real.
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  4. lowphatbass

    lowphatbass **** Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    west coast
    I had one built a number of years ago for a Warmoth Deluxe 5 build. One of the key marketing points was it’s being more organic and “warm”. It was plenty warm but still had a sterility that I couldn’t like. Quality wise it was solid, final finish was fair.
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  5. @ugly_bassplayer

    Moses have always had variable quality. I suspect they have delivered more good necks than bad or they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did. This logo looks new, I guess this one must be a newer one.
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  6. elgecko


    Apr 30, 2007
    Anasleim, CA
    I had a MIM jazz with Moses neck. It was alright once I got the poorly installed neck inserts sorted out. It became redundant once I acquired a Modulus VJ so I sold it.

    Just ask your questions.
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  7. They aren't making necks anymore, now they're into some kind of stage bass monitoring systems.The jury will be out on this one until I can get it looked over. If it's problematic I can bring it back to the guy, so there's that- I'm not necessarily stuck if it's a dog...
  8. Rayjay

    Rayjay If that’s even my real name..

    Sep 27, 2014
    Lahaina, Maui, HI
    I got a jazz neck from probably ‘94 or so. I mean I bought it new so you’d think I’d know for sure? LOL!

    I like it. I still use it. Not the best tone, warmth wise, but gobs of sustain. Tone suffers from the ss frets as well. It’s also HEAVY as it has a trussrod, although I suspect the graphite material is pretty heavy (dense) itself. 1C0CABA2-767C-45ED-A45D-A535E357099B.jpeg 9D9194D1-5628-4F98-9B7C-324BFDE65D5A.jpeg
  9. JIO

    JIO Be seeing you. Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    The Mission SF/CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    Nice looking bass - Spitfire pg?
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  10. Rayjay

    Rayjay If that’s even my real name..

    Sep 27, 2014
    Lahaina, Maui, HI
    You betcha! :bassist:
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  11. StyleOverShow

    StyleOverShow Still Playing After All These Years Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2008
    Bought a G&L 2000 with a Moses Fretless. Thing of beauty but IMO not a great pairing for the roaring pups on the Legend. Swapped the neck out, sold it locally on CL. Good quality neck for all my uses of it.
  12. JIO

    JIO Be seeing you. Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    The Mission SF/CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    Oh wow - you have a Callohill :thumbsup:
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  13. mikewalker

    mikewalker Supporting Member

    Jul 30, 2017
    Canada, Eh!
    I ordered one circa 2008 or so - was never happy with it. Kind of "dead" as graphite necks go... seemed to be composed of glue mixed with some graphite powder. At the same time a friend of mine had a brand new Status MM neck I could directly compare it with, and that one was considerably snappier...
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  14. Thegrandwazoo

    Thegrandwazoo Supporting Member

    Sep 8, 2013
    West Virginia
    I had one on an OLP years ago. It was... decent. The fretwork wasn't much better than a factory OLP and nowhere remotely approaching a real Music Man. I dressed and leveled the frets on mine, but future fretwork is something to think about. It was stable (obviously), sounded good, and weighed about eleven million pounds (making a Stingray neck-dive is no small feat, poplar body or no). In comparison with the factory OLP neck, I'd call it a definite upgrade. I personally had to fill and re-drill my OLP's body, I don't know if that would be universally true. If your OLP has a solid, stable neck, a well-executed fret dress/level or refret would (in my opinion) be a much sounder investment. If it's finicky (mine was), it's a reasonable investment. Mine was shaped like a Jazz neck, I don't know whether that's universally true. That was a bonus for me, but I know it isn't necessarily.
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  15. HardNHeavy


    Apr 17, 2014
    i like the rayjay kitty.........and the bass is nice too
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  16. pnutz

    pnutz Supporting Member

    not to pile on or bash, but had a moses neck about 20 years ago. special order. took 6 months to arrive after being promised a much shorter wait. once i plugged in, tone was not what i was expecting from a "graphite neck". owned dozens of modulus and steinberger basses and assumed the moses 'tone' would be along the same lines. wrong. sound was bland, lifeless, and pretty much 'dead'. i sold the neck immediately.

    hopefully the o.p. has better days with their bass.

    i'm sure many have had a more positive experience with moses but, from my experience, i would never venture near another bass with a moses neck. my opinion, of course.
  17. roller

    roller Supporting Member

    Mar 30, 2014
    I had one of their Jazz necks about 25 years ago. I loved it. The fretwork was great and it had a real solid feel... nice and slim... felt dense and closer to wood than any Modulus or Steinberger neck I've ever played. I strung the bass with flats and really dug it. I'd recommend.

    Bummer to hear they're not in business anymore.
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  18. DeepHz


    Jul 4, 2017
    Clifton Park NY
    Nice Bass! With a matching Cat! I love it!!
  19. I've had a Moses 5 string neck for about 18-20 yrs. Purchased a new neck for my Musicman Stingray 5. I still swap it on my basses when I know we are doing a festival with high humidity. If I didn't have any tone settings on my amp I don't know how often I would use it but I do so. I've had to do some fret filling on the ends of the frets but it was just uncomfortable not unusable. If I was playing a lot I would have a Moses neck on one of my basses. I think I payed $400 way back when. It is a different feel for sure. Some like it, some not . Wouldn't trade mine yet and I'm just about retired.
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  20. Nev375


    Nov 2, 2010
    I've got a custom fanned fret I ordered in about 2011-2012. Other than the fact it took four weeks to get instead of the two they quoted I have no complaints.

    I would not call it sterile sounding. It's definitely on the bright side though. After the initial setup it has never needed an adjustment.

    Getting about time to level the frets though.
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