Most reliable vehicles from model year 2000 onward?

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  1. Basschair

    Basschair .............. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    Stockton, Ca
    Hi all,

    So, some of you may remember my thread about my GTI here . Now I've decided to have the transmission fixed and to then sell the car privately and replace it with something else. I was thinking about Volvos, but am open to anything that gets good mileage and is reliable. No hybrids please...not that they are bad, but the cost savings is offset by initial cost.

    Another factor is this: I don't want anything that is at higher risk for theft. So, anyone have suggestions on vehicles from the past five years that fit these requirements? Thanks!
  2. Knavery


    Feb 24, 2004
    Denver, CO
    Honda Civics have a very high theft rate, but if you have the plain-Jane DX with no options or decked out modifications, you should be pretty safe. They are probably one of THE best cars out there. But then you'll know that if you research the used prices on them. A Civic will last forever if you take care of it as you should with any car.
  3. karrot-x

    karrot-x Banned

    Feb 21, 2004
    Omicron Persei 8
    Actually in my experience it is the plain-Jane DX that gets ripped.
  4. AuG


    May 22, 2005
    Fort Collins, CO
    I drive a pretty much bare bones Toyota Corolla, a 2004. I've heard that they can get ripped off, as much as I guess any other car depending on where you park at night. There's a lot of people who drive those Corollas, so they blend in nicely. MPG is around 35 or so, and the reliability is to hell and back IME. All you really need is the oil change every 3000 miles and services every 10,000 miles. I haven't had a problem yet, although I only have about 25K on the car.....*knock on wood* :)

  5. canopener


    Sep 15, 2003
    Isle of Lucy
    There have been so many reliable vehicles made since 2000, it would really be a matter of taste. What you should be concerned about in a used vehicle is condition, previous owners, mileage, etc.
  6. I've got a 2001 Mazda Tribute. It's great. No problems so far, just regular service, brakes etc.

    Not sure of the mileage (kilometerage?), but it's perfect for my needs. Decent space in the back when needed too.
  7. well use common car sense

    a volvo or good japanese ca will keep working

    a citroen will break down(well not really, but still)

    even though you probably can't get citroens over the pond, they sure look nice
  8. DigMe


    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    I believe recent evidence seems to indicate that the Euro cars, including Volvos, have plummetted in reliability. I'd go Toyota or Honda if you're looking for pure reliability. Look up the JD Powers ratings.

    Here is a list of Consumer Reports "Good Bets" in used cars that have shown better than average reliability:

    Acura Integra
    Acura MDX
    Acura RL
    Acura RSX
    Acura TL
    Buick Regal
    Chevrolet/Geo Prizm
    Chrysler PT Cruiser
    Ford Crown Victoria
    Ford Escort, ZX2
    Honda Accord
    Honda Civic
    Honda CR-V
    Honda Odyssey
    Honda Prelude
    Honda S2000
    Infiniti G20
    Infiniti I30, I35
    Infiniti Q45

    Infiniti QX4
    Lexus ES300, ES330
    Lexus GS300/ GS400,
    Lexus IS300
    Lexus LS400, LS430
    Lexus RX300, RX330
    Lincoln Town Car
    Mazda 626
    Mazda Millenia
    Mazda MX-5 Miata
    Mazda Protegé
    Mercury Grand Marquis
    Mercury Tracer
    Mitsubishi Galant
    Nissan Altima
    Nissan Maxima
    Nissan Pathfinder

    Subaru Forester
    Subaru Impreza
    Subaru Legacy
    Subaru Outback
    Toyota 4Runner
    Toyota Avalon
    Toyota Camry
    Toyota Camry Solara
    Toyota Celica
    Toyota Corolla
    Toyota Echo
    Toyota Highlander
    Toyota Land Cruiser
    Toyota Prius
    Toyota RAV4
    Toyota Sequoia
    Toyota Sienna
    Toyota Tundra

    Here are their "Bad Bets" that have shown worse-than-average reliability from 1997 to 2004:

    Audi A6
    BMW 7 Series
    Chevrolet Astro
    Chevrolet Blazer
    Chevrolet Express1500
    Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
    Chevrolet TrailBlazer
    Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
    Dodge Dakota (4WD)
    Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
    Ford Windstar
    GMC Envoy
    GMC Jimmy
    GMC Safari
    GMC Savana 1500
    GMC Sonoma (4WD)
    Jaguar S-Type
    Jaguar X-Type
    Jeep Grand Cherokee
    Land Rover Discovery
    Lincoln Navigator
    Mercedes-Benz C-Class (V6)
    Mercedes-Benz CLK
    Mercedes-Benz M-Class
    Mercedes-Benz S-Class
    Oldsmobile Bravada
    Oldsmobile Cutlass
    Plymouth Neon
    Pontiac Aztek
    Saturn Vue
    Volkswagen Golf
    Volkswagen Jetta
    New Beetle
    Volvo S80

    brad cook
  9. Basschair

    Basschair .............. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    Stockton, Ca
    Thanks guys! I'll be cross-referrencing these with the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety reports, and go from there...
  10. Thor

    Thor Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    My main complaint with Volvo and Saab is that with the
    weak US Dollar exchange rate, parts have gotten very
    expensive. So brakes and stuff have hurt.

    Reliability has been ok, but I have 156K miles on my 98
    V70, so stuff is starting to wear out.

    Next time around it will be a Toyota or Honda, the reliability
    numbers are very good. How refreshing! Build a reliable car
    with good value for a reasonable cost. That is truly a novel
    concept, eh?
  11. Consumer Reports lists the Lexus RX300 as a "Good Bet".

    Well, I have had MANY problems with my '00 and can direct any of you to numerous websites stating the same. In the same breath I can talk about MANY problems I had with my '95 ES300 as well.

    The 2 BIGGIES that top the list are rear main seal leaks (VERY expensive fix, and quite common), and transmission problems (even MORE expensive). I had both.

    I have no idea about the other cars listed, just thought I'd share my $.02. Actually, the Acura TL and CL series also had alot of transmission problems in that era. Honda acknowledged the problem and extended the transmission warranty to 100k miles. Toyota (who had MORE issues that Honda) still refuses to admit there is a transmission problem.

    Just my .02 but I'll NEVER buy another Lexus/Toyota product. Ever.
  12. Thor

    Thor Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Was that for Automatic trannies only?
    Or standard shift as well?

    Just curious.

    I am due pretty soon too for a car.
  13. jkritchey


    Jul 23, 2002
    Northern Va.
    Toyota and Honda have had several issues that they have not dealt with well:

    Toyota had issues with the Camry engine and Oil sludge build up. Never really acknolwedged the problem AFAIK.

    Honda had / is having problems with the CR-V catching fire after the first oil change (brand new cars). They also have been a little dodgy about it, blaming the service people.

    As far as ratings go, they can be quite useful, just don't rely on them exclusively with out checking other resources. For example, almost every model has some type of internet forum for people who just 'love their cars'. Find the group for the model you are interested in. Read there for a few days.

    I did that when I wanted a Ford Escape. I actually joined a forum of people who "LOVED" Escapes, but after hanging there a bit, realized I didn't have a good feeling about the Escape based on what I was reading.

    Also, be careful of "Ego" brands like Lexus and Acura. Although they can be great cars, remember that anyone who spent Ego money to buy an Acura for $8000 more than an Accord is unlikely to tell you it wasn't worth it. Too much emotion in that purchase.
  14. As far as I know it's just the autos. Very few of them shipped with a stick.

    There's a great Lexus forum I used to be a part of that had links to a whole bunch of information and stats on the ongoing problems. I could track it down if you'd like.
  15. I forgot all about the sludge issue, probably 'cause that's one problem I escaped without.

    You are right, they never *truly* acknowledged that as a problem either.
  16. Ego cars? That's harsh dude!

    BUT, with that being said, I'll tell you straight up it wasn't worth it! Outside of the "ooh factor" Lexus' SUCK, IMO.
  17. jkritchey


    Jul 23, 2002
    Northern Va.
    Yes, but JD Powers surveys during the first year of ownership. That's when it's hard to get an objective opinion about the more luxe (read: expensive) makes.

    Sorry to be harsh, not the intent. I don't know what else to call it. There are Accords and Camry's that can be fitted out as well as any Acura or Lexus, but people pay extra for the that little sumthin-sumthin....
  18. No biggie.... It's just that I owned TWO of those "ego cars"! :crying:
  19. DigMe


    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Some of them are "ego" cars but some of them are unique and have no match under the lesser badge. One good example is the Infiniti FX45. Yeah, there's the Nissan Murano, which is sorta similar but has a different body style and you cannot get a Murano with a 320hp V-8 that will do 0-60 in 6.5. On the other hand you've got the BIG Infiniti SUV which looks EXACTLY like the Nissan Armada. I think that's truly what you mean by "ego-car." There is at least one similar comparison with Lexus/Toyota in the RX300 series. I don't think there is truly a comparable Toyota model to that is there?

    brad cook
  20. Basschair

    Basschair .............. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    Stockton, Ca
    How about a Mercedes-Benz SL 65 with the AMG upgrades? There's one for a slim $191,000 at a dealer right around the you think that could be considered "ego" money? ;)

    Getting on the driver forums is a great idea. I've got about a month to do this in, so I'll see what I come up with.