Most underrated rhythm section(s)

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by sricks3, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. sricks3

    sricks3

    Dec 6, 2007
    Augusta, GA
    Anytime I hear people discussing the great rhythm sections of all time and those that they themselves study and try to emulate, I am always struck by some of the names that are left out. Sure, combos such as Jones/Bonham, Lee/Peart, and Claypool/Alexander are great and clearly worthy of note, but I always enjoy listening to bands that people don't usually think of for their solid foundations and being blown away by these lesser known rhythm sections.

    The absolute number one underrated rhythm section that comes to my mind backed a man known as Sir Elton John. Dee Murray and Nigel Olsson formed one of the strongest backbones I've ever heard. They show everything from solid simplicity to left-of-center creativity on Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. "Grey Seal" and "I've Seen That Movie Too" are two of my favorites, and who can forget "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding". Murray and Olsson were also phenomenal live on the lesser-known 11/17/70. Oh, and don't forget that Elton John is mildly talented (to say the least) on the piano himself.

    Anyway, who would y'all consider to be other top-rate rhythm sections that don't seem to get the recognition of those I've mentioned above and the others that are inevitably mentioned in every rhythm section list?
     
  2. gweimer

    gweimer Guest

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Bill Church/Denny Carmassi from Montrose
    Tony Franklin/Chris Slade - The Firm (when I saw them live, they pretty much WERE the band)
    Tony Kanal/Adrian Young - No Doubt
     
  3. sricks3

    sricks3

    Dec 6, 2007
    Augusta, GA
    I'll second the Kanal/Young matchup. I'm not a big fan of No Doubt, but I can't argue with their ability.

    I'll have to check out the others.
     
  4. Swimming Bird

    Swimming Bird

    Apr 18, 2006
    Wheaton MD
    Jesse Murphy/Aaron Johnston of Brazilian Girls is a great combo.
    Colin Greenwood/Phil Selway of Radiohead -- they're a totally stable foundation for a great band.
     
  5. nysbob

    nysbob

    Sep 14, 2003
    Cincinnati OH
    Joey Spampinato & Tom Ardolino - NRBQ

    Kenny Gradney & Ritchie Hayward - Little Feat

    Here's a blast from the past -

    Mike Rutherford & Phil Collins - Genesis... those early tracks were really quite good.
     
  6. ctbass

    ctbass

    Jun 21, 2005
    Colorado
    Serafin/Cetera
    Rodby/Wertico
    Egan/Gottlieb
    Prestia/Garibaldi
    The Who
    THe Blue Line
     
  7. Mystic Michael

    Mystic Michael Hip No Ties

    Apr 1, 2004
    New York, NY
    Very good indeed. Listen to anything on Lamb Lies Down On Broadway or before.

    Suggested tracks:


    • [*]Watcher of the Skies
      [*]Get 'Em Out by Friday
      [*]In The Cage
      [*]The Fountain of Salmacis
    MM
     
  8. wideload

    wideload

    Apr 15, 2004
    Salinas, CA
    +1 to the OP. Probably the first time that I recognized the bass as an influential part of music. I loved the interplay they had on those old songs. 11-17-70 is my favorite live recording because of that!
     
  9. There was another thread recently about the Smiths, and I think they are an underrated rhythm section.
     
  10. sricks3

    sricks3

    Dec 6, 2007
    Augusta, GA
    I have to second both the Genesis and Tower of Power listings. Those are definitely high on my list as well. And speaking of Genesis, I have to throw in Tony Levin/Jerry Marotta/Manu Katche with Peter Gabriel on So. The verse lines from Sledgehammer make me happy.
     
  11. nortonrider

    nortonrider

    Nov 20, 2007
    Fleetwood Mac
    Double Trouble
     
  12. sricks3

    sricks3

    Dec 6, 2007
    Augusta, GA
    I have to agree with both of these.
     
  13. Calebmundy

    Calebmundy

    Apr 5, 2007
    Nashville
    Endorsing Artist: DNA Amplifiers, Lākland Basses
    The guys from the Counting Crows are AMAZING, and so underrated that I don't even know their names!
     
  14. locolobo85

    locolobo85 Guest

    Nov 13, 2007
    North Carolina, USA
    Shouldn't be underrated, but any number of combinations of bass/drums/conga/timbales that Santana has put together over the years.

    My dream combo would have to be Alphonso Johnson/Graham Lear/Armando Peraza/Karl Perazzo. WOW!
     
  15. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Chic: Bernard Edwardson bass, Tony Thompson on drums, and Nile Rogers on Guitar. Even though their production work outside of Chic proved they were great musicians, I still feel that they are underrated.
     
  16. sricks3

    sricks3

    Dec 6, 2007
    Augusta, GA
    I'll throw in two more I just thought of:

    Dennis Dunaway/Neal Smith with Alice Cooper on the School's Out album
    John Hartman/Michael Hossack with the Doobie Brothers
     
  17. thombo

    thombo

    Aug 25, 2006
    Denver, CO
    trying to stick to some "underated" sections
    -tortoise... pretty much everyone in the band rotates between guitar and drums (a key to their success?) implementing some tasty, fairly egoless playing.
    -critters buggin'- brad houser (bs), matt chamberlain (dr), mike dillon (per)
    -fly, metheny/mehldau, mehldau trio- larry grenadier (bs) and jeff ballard (dr)
    -william parker (bs) and hamid drake (dr)
    -phish- mike gordon (bs) and john fishman (dr)
     
  18. The Police: Stewart Copeland/Sting (Copeland is my favourite drummer ever)
    Rage Against The Machine Brad Wilk/Timmy Comerford
    Chic Tony Thompson/Bernard Edwards
    Ian Dury & The Blockheads Charlie Charles/Norman Watt-Roy
    King Crimson Bill Bruford/Tony Levin
    Pearl Jam Matt Cameron/Jeff Ament
    Rush Neil Peart/Geddy Lee
     
  19. Joebone

    Joebone Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2005
    California Republic
    Big +1 for the Chic section...absolute killer.

    How 'bout the bassist and drummer from all of those Elvis Costello and the Attractions albums? Those guys came up with a lot of great parts and managed to set the right vibe on a wide range of material. ditto for the pianist, Steve Nieve! Feeling like a dope because I can't remember either the bassist or drummer's names...Pete Thomas? Check out "Trust;" not Costello's best-known album, but a pretty eclectic outing and the rhythm section is all over it in providing appropriate settings.
     
  20. Sneckumhaw

    Sneckumhaw Guest

    Apr 26, 2006
    Earth
    Anything but underrated.