Ok, I've been looking to buy an MTD Kingston for a while now. I found a dealer on their website and it said they just had the Kingston... So I go. And find that they have both a Kingston and a Grendel! The guy offered me the Grendel 5 w/gig bag for $600!!! Or the Kingston 4 with HSC, cord, MTD shirt and hat for $600 HA! Now, I can get the Kingston from a guy I know that works at Musicians Friend, for $350. Which do you think is the better deal? The Grendel at $600 is right at the top of my price range, so this is a difficult decision. Oh yea, by the way, I love the sound of that Grendel, even through the crappy combo with the 8" in it. Thanks.