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MTD PLAYERS... WHY???

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Fire-Starter, Sep 22, 2004.


  1. Fire-Starter

    Fire-Starter Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    MINNESOTA
    I hear these are great basses and all, I want to try one so bad! my question to the players of MTD-5 or MTD-6 basses is ...

    1: why did you sell yours?

    I see plenty of these for sell so I am curious if the reason is any of the following

    a: not really what you expected
    b: did not like the tone
    c: just needed the money

    if this seems like a silly question, please pardon me, but I am just curious why te owners of these bassses have gotton rid of them, since I would like to try/own one some day, and they are spendy and from what I hear, worth it!

    Talk to me :meh:
     
  2. hands5

    hands5

    Jan 15, 2003
    good 'ol USA/Tampa fla.
    none
    I sold mine not because it wasn 't a great bass it was just that I didn't really have a need for a 6 -string bass plus I've pretty much have gone back to Jazz type basses be it 4 or 5,and although the MTD was a 35"inch scale bass and had a very dark organic tone I found myself really wanting that full bottom that good Jazz basses have with real good single coil pickups,besides I kinda like the tonality of the 34'inch scale basses
    However,If I get another 6 string I would like a pregibson Tobias Classic 6 string or a neck thru Ken Smith.I still do have a Tobias Classic V that I still am in love with
     
  3. frederic b. hodshon

    frederic b. hodshon Supporting Member

    May 10, 2000
    Lake Forest, CA
    None.
    i've got an MTD 635 in the works.

    i played a friends avadore 535 recently.

    WOW.

    people sell for various reasons. don't mean it ain't no gUd.

    i sold a Sadowsky Vintage 5 that i wish i hadn't. but, $$$ rules unfortunately.

    f
     
  4. Stinkoman20xx

    Stinkoman20xx

    Oct 19, 2003
    I think gas Is the number one reason when its something this big then you always see people rebuying their old basses.
     
  5. BoiNtC

    BoiNtC

    Nov 25, 2002
    NYC, USA
    I haven't sold mine, its that good! ;)
     
  6. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    1. I didn't. It has a unique vibe.


    As to why others got rid of theirs, no offense but... who cares? There are so many reasons people get rid of stuff that IMO it shouldn't factor into why "you" would buy one or why "you" might keep it. I can't say I'll NEVER sell mine and that doesn't change the fact that it's an excellent bass. Matter of fact I've pretty much made a habit of picking up killer basses that people either don't want or have decided to sell. I don't make a habit of asking why mainly because... I don't care:).


    None of this is really MTD specific, it happens with most brands. Here's one of the worst reasons people buy "better" instruments IMO... because they think it will make them better. When it doesn't, they sell. If you check out more than half the the basses I own it's hard to imagine people getting rid of them but they did... and :hyper:

    I highly recommend US MTD basses if they float your boat. I've had my 635 for a couple of years and it sounds the same as when I first got it... amazing. What's happened since is I've gotten a better grip on how to play it and have grown fonder of it than before. Mine is still one of the best sixes I've ever played. Peopel say that MTD's are bright but IME it's very easy to not sound bright without any EQ tweaks.
     
  7. mjw

    mjw

    Jun 12, 2001
    Spring, TX USA
    Agreed. Someone would have to pry my 535 out of my cold dead......

    .....well, you get the picture! :D
     
  8. willrwilli

    willrwilli

    Jul 15, 2002
    I sold mine a couple of years ago during a weak moment in my life. I have regretted it every since. I have an MTD 635 arriving tommorrow, and I can't wait.
     
  9. What the...

    No 'wink' smiley??

    :confused:

    Brad, are you feeling well?
     
  10. Doug Parent

    Doug Parent Supporting Member

    May 31, 2004
    San Diego, Ca.
    Dealer Nordstrand Pickups.
    I tried to sell my 535 twice but changed my mind. While I also play a Fender Jazz 5 and like that tone, the MTD 535 will always be the Ferrari in my arsenal. The radius of the fret board is a little too rounded for my taste, but after having it for a year and half I 'm getting used to it.
    if my house was on the fire and I could only rescue one axe, the 535 with live to see another day. The Fender is nice but utterly replaceable.

    Its also the bass that gets the most nods on tone.
    However, I have to also say I've never been able to part with my Czech made Grendel. Great bass for the money. Popular body with flame maple top, NO BASSWOOD. Sorry Korea. No comparison. The B on the Grendel is comparable to the 535. Just a different tone.

    I think many guys have the Fender Jazz fat tone in thier DNA. Can't get away from it. The 535 isn't a Fender not even close. That probably helps nobody, but its late and I can't sleep so blah blah blah
     
  11. you can't really judge a bass like that on the fact that people decide to sell them. people's tastes change, mabey they bought the thing on credit and just can't afford it anymore, and people get GAS and often have to let something go in order to afford their new object of affection.
     
  12. mz91

    mz91

    Apr 19, 2002
    Zug, Switzerland
    +1

    Regarding the 535: First, I love this Bass. I bought it solely on what i heard about MTD's.
    The bartolini Preamp in the bass is very very versatile. I can get crazy lows on it as well as crisp highs.

    Alot of people say MTD's are bright but i wouldnt percieve them as that. Especially since i have a Modulus which i would characterise as a "bright" sounding bass.

    The 535 is extremely easy to play. Playability was worlds apart from the last 5er i had (Skyline 55-02).

    I do agree with people that say the 535 is "Modern" sounding. So if you are a more vintage type guy, and dont like basses with "Bite!" that are slightly aggressive maybe it wont be your thing.

    And... not sure how true this is but most people say that MTD's sound very different depending on the wood choices. So maybe you might not like one but love the other ;) .

    Mine has a Tulipwood body, Maple neck and Wenge fingerboard. :D

    Greetings

    Michael
     
  13. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    Nope, because I was dead serious:D

    While I know people who have gotten rid of stuff for hardship reasons, most people I know who have gotten rid of upper end basses did it because for them the magic wasn't there. I have a friend who got rid of a very nice high end bass because it sounded great in everyone else's hands... but his own.

    :meh:

    And he admitted that he didn't practice. Yet he was disappointed with the bass.

    :confused:

    I've actually spent lots of time essentially talking people out of selling something they thought couldn't do what they wanted. If they made the commitment to spend the time practicing I have no doubt they would've been much happier with their choice.

    Then again, maybe it's just a coincidence that all of my basses sound good, none of them have floppy B strings and they all cut through in the mix.

    :meh:

    Granted, their dissatisfaction has been a bonanza for me. If I had asked the owner of the Ambush bass why he wanted to sell it and he told me because he didn't really like it or even worse, thought it sucked... it would still sound the same to me as it did.

    That's why I don't care. Different strokes.
     
  14. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Supporting Member

    People sell for all kinds of reasons, some mentioned above. Sure, I've sold a couple of basses that I actually didn't like, but that's the exception because I've rarely owned basses I didn't like.


    Some nice basses I've sold:

    Early Spector NS-2 PJ (bought and sold in the 80's) — fantastic tone and neck profile, but uncomfortable for me to play for various reasons.

    Jackson and Charvel — pointy headstocks fell out of fashion. :p

    Modulus Quantum 5 — I loved everything about it except the string spacing at the bridge. Sold it to finance another boutique (with wide spacing of course)

    Finally, I sold a number of nice four-strings simply because I decided I preferred five-strings.

    Likewise, someone could be switching from fretted to fretless, or maybe they're selling a tulipwood/wenge MTD to finance an ash/ash MTD... you get the idea.
     
  15. Vic

    Vic There's more music in the nuance than the notes. Gold Supporting Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Central Illinois
    Staff, Bass Gear Magazine
    +1! Totally right!

    +1! In fact, I'm still getting used to the fact that I have an EQ I can totally use. Most preamps you can only use a little bit before it either detracts from the tone or just gets too noisy, IMHO.

    -1 Not to disagree with you about the Modulus, but just because the Modulus is bright doesn't mean the MTD isn't. Holy cow, on mine, I've actually had to turn the treble down many times, which is unique to the MTD. Very "crisp" just as you said before. In fact, you'll find as you read from new MTD owners just how unbelievably clear these things are. For better or worse, without rolling the treble off, these things are brutally honest about what you're doing. You very much hear EVERYTHING. Literally force you to improve your technique. I kinda' like that. I need all the help I can get. :)

    +1!! I can't believe how low I can get the action without buzz on mine. I can get it so low that, for example, when I pluck the A string, as my finger stops against the E string, it clicks against the frets... even with a fairly light touch... and NO buzz! One thing about the MTD (IMHO) is it's the kind of tool that will really facilitate your taking your technique to the next level.

    +1, but with that fantastic EQ, I think you can really get anything you want.

    -1, This bass's natural tone is modern, but remember the EQ! IMHO, this bass can do it all. I've gotten some VERY nice faithful J and P tones with fairly minor EQ adjustments. FYI, I have a Geddy Jazz and an '83 USA P, as well.

    I'm not sure about "very" different, but they do vary at least somewhat. When selecting mine, I played one with the wenge/wenge neck and the maple/ebony neck. They were noticeably different to me, but not to the point I'd dislike one and like the other. More like which one I liked best. :)

    This is where great dealers with honest eval period policies are CRITICAL. Sux to have to return one, but I ain't rich! :)
     
  16. hands5

    hands5

    Jan 15, 2003
    good 'ol USA/Tampa fla.
    none
    Funny you should say this because when I did purchase my 635,I did try a 21 fret 535 with and Ash body/Walnut top with a Maple Neck/Rosewood Fingerboard and I be damned" If it didn't sound just like a Fender Jazz with a little less bottom,and proably the reason for this is because the pickups were placed in the same positions asd would have been on a Jazz via the single coils.Well anyway Go back to sleep. :spit:
     
  17. I sold mine when I was a new player. It did not have fret markers which at the time I felt I needed. The on-board EQ seemed super sensitive. It seeemed very bright and very sensitive to my playing finger noise etc. All in all it seems to be for someone more experienced than Me. Also it was solid grey-blue so did not like the color and I had my heart set on a nice maple top.

    Wish I still had it though. I probably would not have bought and sold so many basses over the years. Though my current Lakland JO-5 I would not sell for anything, and don't want another bass even a new MTD-535. I ended up playing a Alembic for years with no fretboard markers, so that became a non-issue.
     
  18. Dan Knowlton

    Dan Knowlton Out of my mind, back in 5 minutes! Supporting Member

    I sold my first because I bought a second one that I liked even better. NOTHING wrong with the first, but Funky was selling his MTD with the flamed redwood top and I HAD to have it! Its still the #2 bass in my bunch and gets used a lot.

    Dan K.
     
  19. Vic

    Vic There's more music in the nuance than the notes. Gold Supporting Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Central Illinois
    Staff, Bass Gear Magazine
    #2??? What the heck is #1??? :)
     
  20. ElMon

    ElMon Supporting Member

    May 30, 2004
    Oklahoma City, OK
    Here is an experience I've had. I bought my MTD 535 used from Glenn @ austinbasstraders. Since I live in OKC, it was worth the 8 hour drive to go down and try some basses. Glenn is not a merchant. He is a bass specialist.

    Here is a list of basses that I tried, all of which can be found on www.austinbasstraders.com:
    1) MTD 535 "pinup bass": Crotched Walnut top on a northern ash body, Maple neck/board.
    2) MTD 535: Tulipwood body, Wenge neck/board
    3) Fodera 5 : Koa body, Maple top, rosewood board, maple neck, Mike Pope pre.
    4) MTD 635: Mahogany body, spalted maple top, Maple board/neck

    Each one of these basses is a completely different animal. I originally purchased the 635, which was used. The tone was deep and complex, with a pronounced warmth due to the mahogany. However, for me, it did not have the aggressive snap that my current bass does. If you want to hear about that bass, go to www.bgra.net and read my review on the new page. I tried the Fodera's, and surprisingly, I was not that impressed. But then again, I think that my 535 absolutely smoked the 635 and the Fodera together in regards to feel and tone.

    Mike Tobias can get a plethora of sounds to accomadate any type of player. If you want a traditional fender type of sound, try putting longscale flats on an MTD and get ready with the moist towlettes (not for the face either); its like anointing yourself in oil: thick.

    Anyways, I will never sell my MTD (but would possibly trade it for another with a different wood combo), but I am still open to other tones from different instruments. I might break down and go a hunting for an Anthony Jackson Model, via Fodera, but do not want to encourage the idea.