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Music Biz Documentary "Unsound"

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Tony In Philly, Oct 21, 2013.


  1. Tony In Philly

    Tony In Philly Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Oct 25, 2007
    Filthydelphia, USA
    A very probing documentary about how difficult it is to make it as a creative musician:

    http://vimeo.com/58809695

    Some take away thoughts of mine:

    a) It makes me glad I have a day job.

    b) I suspect I make more at mediocre bar gigs than some of the folks that were talked about in the interviews.

    c) I'll probably watch the whole thing sometime soon (assuming they actually finish the film).

    d) I hope the underlying message of this film isn't that these artists deserve government subsidies, but I fear it might be. The marketplace should and will eventually correct this problem.
     
  2. Space Pickle

    Space Pickle

    Apr 15, 2013
    Thanks, look really interesting.I hope they finish it.
     
  3. Milk

    Milk

    Sep 16, 2013
    Montreal, Canada
    I'm by and large one of those canadian socialist ultra liberal people that does think the government should in fact have a hand in a most things BUT........here we have government subsidies for all arts and you know what? I think it just serves to invest in and promote mediocrity 9.8 times out of 10 and i don't know that i like it and i don't know that down the line this is not a disservice to the artists.

    What's more, and this is kinda digressing here but to me its a further point that sometimes all the government does in trying to help the artist is promote mediocrity... our broadcasting laws forces TV and radio to have a certain % of Canadian content (i think it's something around 40%) and it's basically a way to shove down our throat things we don't care to watch or hear. Now i'm not in any way claiming that america doesn't create its gigantic share of absolute crap both in music or tv but the fact is that for my personal tastes i cannot think of one canadian tv show i ever wanted to watch in the whole history of television and none of my favorite bandsa ever were canadian (now to be fair most arent american either but british but the laws still stand for british content..which yeah means that...on BBC Canada? 40% of the stuff is canadian shows....like..***...im watching the BRITISH broadcasting Corporation for a reason and i'm pretty sure that reason it to watch BRITISH things...). For movies, only if it's made in Quebec does it have a higher chance of not sucking but most of the stuff they force us to watch on our tv channels anyway are, get this, canadian produced tv movies (which makes it canadian content)...made for the american market and set in America. Yeah it blows the mind. This is how our government help promote our NATIONAL culture.....
     
  4. Tony In Philly

    Tony In Philly Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Oct 25, 2007
    Filthydelphia, USA
    BINGO! All it does is create an artistic bureaucracy with certain favorites hogging all the glory while many of the struggling artists are in an even worse position, probably going totally underground or just letting it turn into a "hobby".

    A much more sinister example of state intervention in the arts would be the plight of of state sanctioned playwrights aptly dramatized in the film about life in the former East Germany, The Lives of Others. One is a decent man, but a darling of the state who is forced to write propaganda plays, while some of his colleagues are in various states of blacklisting by the government and unable to work anymore. One is even driven to suicide. Maybe I'm getting a bit over extended on making this argument but that it is the extreme endpoint of where state intervention in the arts could take a nation.

    Getting back to the main topic (I really have digressed here), I still buy CD's. I love browsing around in small record stores; I get excited when I see a package containing a CD I ordered sitting in my mailbox; I like holding the packaging while I'm listening. Old habits die hard. :bassist:
     
  5. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Like in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 when our state department denied visas to foreign musicians and writers from any nation who was not part of our military coalition? Not because they were associated with any "subversive" group, but because they made music or wrote for a living, but had the bad luck to be from a country without the will or means to go to war as our ally.

    Please don't get me wrong here, I love my country and have shed blood in her defense, but I often wonder at the "logic" of our elected leaders when it comes to the arts.

    Personally, I think the only role of government in the arts should be a conspicuous absence thereof, but then who would be there with enough official weight to threaten someone who decided a crucifix in a jar of urine would be a though provoking, snappy subject.
     

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