I want to relate to everyone some stories that I've heard recently. All of these involve people working at various levels of the music business. 1) My best friend's sister is a singer in a 4 piece R&B pop group, based out of Boston, MA. They're kind of like Destiny's Child or Dream, that type of group. They're on the verge of a major label deal. The group and their management recently went to Florida for an annual dance music conference. Lots of industry big-shots were there, including P Diddy. Now before I say what I'm about to say, I want to mention the fact that the 4 members of the group are all girls in their early twenties. All of them are in great physical shape and are very attractive. The group and management were at one of those industry "schmooze" parties, where everyone sips martinis, name drops, etc.. There was this entertainment lawyer there, a well known guy in the business supposedly. This man took the group's manager aside and told him flat out "You need to get rid of one of the group members.. she's too overweight". It so happened that the member he was referring to was my friend's sister, who is about 130lbs soaking wet. This guy had a lot of nerve saying that, but from talking to her and some others, this type of attitude is commonplace. 2) Another friend of mine went to see a fairly well known (in Boston, anyways) local band. This band was able to draw tons of people and had a residency at The Rack, one of the prime spots in the Boston scene. As he watches them, he notices that something isn't quite right... the bassist is pounding roots, yet a funky bassline is coming out of his amp and the PA. They sound a little too clean and polished. It turns out that this band uses sequencers... they are in effect a live karaoke act. What I didn't know was that this kind of thing is somewhat commonplace. In both cases above, the question I ask is this: what comes first, the music, or entertainment? My friend's sister is a very capable songwriter and vocalist, yet this guy wanted her gone because she isn't emaciated enough. In the other case, the band is basically deceiving the audience, who are there for a live band. When we go out and gig, are we musicians, or are we entertainers? Is the music business even about music at all? Perhaps I sound naive here, but I want to stimulate some debate and here what everyone else here has to say. Does anyone have any horror stories that they'd like to share?