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Music man sound?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by dabass, Dec 4, 2005.


  1. dabass

    dabass Supporting Member

    Sep 27, 2005
    NYC
    Could anyone clarify or discribe what Music Man tone is ?? What is the "typical" MM sound?
     
  2. old school flea off of such albums as blood suger sex majek,

    lowsound
     
  3. todd 4ta

    todd 4ta

    Apr 3, 2003
    Indiana
    Listen to some Sade songs, that's a classic fingerstyle Stingray sound.
     
  4. todd 4ta

    todd 4ta

    Apr 3, 2003
    Indiana
    I'm not an expert on which songs were recorded with which bass, but I know Flea used different basses in the studio at times.

    I saw them play live many times from about '84 to '90, and I'm almost positive that Flea played Stingrays live exclusively at that time.
     
  5. I sat in with a band Sat. night for two songs, played a MM from Leo's era,......sounded no different then any of my P's.
    Maybe it was the beer, or I need more time with one!

    I'm sure at home with a MM,.....I'd be able to hear a difference.
     
  6. The only song Flea recorded with a Stingray on One hot minute is Aeroplane, that might give you an idea!
     
  7. im a sure that he was still using MM's for BSSM, for OHM he has a wal and after that he has used a jazz, his sig and MM's for the two cds since (i think that he used a 5 string for BSSM, not sure tho)

    lowsound
     
  8. dabass

    dabass Supporting Member

    Sep 27, 2005
    NYC
    Do many Jazz guys play MM basses?
     
  9. dirtgroove

    dirtgroove

    Jan 10, 2003
    Taipei, Taiwan
    I was pretty certain that BSSM was done mainly using a WAL with the exception of maybe a 'Ray5.


    Sterlings sound a little different but,

    If
    Precision= thump
    and Jazz= growl
    then
    Stingray=fizz.

    The beauty in a ray is not to be heard when played solo (according to me) play it in a band though and it sings.
     
  10. Most of Disturbed's old stuff (pre-10,00 fists) is done with a Stingray I think. Fuzz gets quite alot of room in the mix too so they're well worth a check out. Fuzz used to use that kickass black disturbed sig, that was cool as! In fact, their new bassist Tom Moyer used to use Stingrays back in Union Underground and he uses one in the stricken Video so I think it would be safe to assume almost all of Disturbed's stuff is MMSR.

    Rob Trujillio also used a SR a few times live, I have a few video's on here somewhere. Back when he first joined Tallica.
     
  11. phxlbrmpf

    phxlbrmpf

    Dec 27, 2002
    Germany
    Yep, most of Blood Sugar Sex Magick was recorded with a Wal, therefore BSSM is not the best CD to get a taste of the classic MM sound. Wals sound completely different, the most obvious difference to the MM sound is the fatter bottom end you can dial in due to the fat neck pickup, which the classic Sting Ray is lacking.
     
  12. I would say (as a Sterling player) that the MM sound is all about focus and the ability to cut through the mix in a defined way :bassist: . No blurr, just tight bass with lots of everything. :D
     
  13. 73jbass

    73jbass Supporting Member

    Apr 17, 2004
    Ellenwood,Ga.
    I retired my beloved 73 jazz after playing a Sterling 3 years ago,and I haven't looked back. The tone is very focused,and it just sits in the mix so well. Especially in a live setting. I can hear myself without the extra volume.They just work.
     
  14. darkblack99

    darkblack99 Supporting Member

    Tony Levin.

    King Crimson's Three Of A Perfect Pair.

    :bassist:
     
  15. The album "Disintegration" by the Cure features some real good songs with a Stingray(and a Jazz)

    Listen to the songs "Disintegration", as it features Simon getting a real good growl, using a little flanger ...oh yeah, and "Fascination Street" too...some Stingray for ya.
     
  16. yes , the classic stingray does lack a neck pick up, but in no way does it suffer from a lack of bottom end because of it. It has LOADS of bottom end.

    if you want 'The' classic stingray sound you should listen to...

    Bernard Edwards on the some of the Chic stuff ...'le Freak', 'everybody dance', 'My forbidden lover', 'I want your love'. he also uses it exclusively on Diana Ross' 'Diana' Album...it'll knock your socks off

    Louis Johnson on the brothers Johnson tune 'Stomp':

    Tony Levin on the peter gabriel's 'Sledge hammer' (more of a modern vibe on that one)

    Nick Beggs from 80's new wave band 'Kajagoogoo'. Who would have thought a New wave band would feature such a great bass player?. His tone on the tune 'OOh too be AAh' is a great exposition of the classic SR sound
     
  17. Micolao

    Micolao

    Sep 7, 2005
    Italy

    Are you sure?
    I think the only song made with the Stingray (pre ernie) is "Homesick"
    I'm a great Cure's fan, they're absolutely my favourite group,
    anyway I really can be wrong, so if you please can tell me or show me where did you took this information it will be a plasure for me. ;)
     
  18. Supertramp! I believe Dougie Thomson played a Stringray. Check out Crime of the Century and Breakfast in America. (BTW: Dougie is the most under-rated player out there - had a MASSIVE amount of groove).


    - Andrew
     
  19. i thought that OHM was the one with the Wal??? on his instruction video that came out right after BSSM he was using his MM and it sounded the same

    lowsound
     
  20. phxlbrmpf

    phxlbrmpf

    Dec 27, 2002
    Germany
    Nope, he recorded most of One Hot Minute with an Alembic Epic, except for "Aeroplane".