Musicians As First Responders (How are your swordsman skills?)

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  1. Bunk McNulty

    Bunk McNulty It is not easy to do simple things correctly Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 2012
    Northampton, MA
    "To the modern mind, musical skills and police responsibilities have little in common, but in an earlier age the two roles often overlapped. Musicians not only helped defend the city gate, but might also be required to patrol streets at night. In Norwich in 1440 a tax was instituted to pay the waits for their watch—and these musicians were required to take an oath of office. In Germany, a minstrel was expected 'to acquit himself well as a swordsman.' Surviving illustrations tend to emphasize the bulky, formidable aspect of these street performers."

    Why Did Medieval Cities Hire Street Musicians As First-Responders?
  2. When seconds count the police are just minutes away. I’ve been my own first responder for decades.
    Interesting article, wonder if this is how the police whistle originated?
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  3. roccobass

    roccobass Still funkin’ in the free world.

    Jun 25, 2014
    Swords? We don’t need no stinking’ swords!

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  4. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I'm certainly rusty, haven't practiced in years, but I used to do the Yang style Tai Chi sabre forms quite well.

    But I haven't studied my Grippa..,
  5. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
  6. kobass

    kobass Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Outside Boston
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  7. RichSnyder

    RichSnyder Columbia, MD Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Couldn’t get a paying gig back then either.
  8. BassBrass


    Jul 6, 2009
    Boston MA
    By The Way, the illustration of that article includes all early brass and one bassoon (which are loud enough). What looks like a clarinet isn't, it's a cornetto, the early open hole trumpet. If you could play cornetto you were pretty tough. Cornetto players often use the side of the lips because the embouchure is so small, that's a way to get the high notes of it's singing register where fingering isn't as important. (like on modern trumpet above high C) Playing that high was a good way to die of an aneurism... There were also slide trumpets, high version of saxbut (trombone) and in the 19th century flugalhorns evolved from a bugle with a valve system to introduce different lengths of tubing. Hunting horns had no valves and the guilds of Royal horns didn't work with the guild of common musicians at the town gate. In India, Nagaswram (double reeds Very loud) were the town gate instruments. Too bad that all fell out of style.
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  9. Makes sense, jazz musicians copping guns to make sure they get paid were the next evolution
  10. Bunk McNulty

    Bunk McNulty It is not easy to do simple things correctly Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 2012
    Northampton, MA
    Watching this guy play all I can think of is Lester Young.:D
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  11. DirtDog


    Jun 7, 2002
    The Deep North
    The fight usually starts just a few feet from the stage.
  12. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Back when "musician" was considered a viable career, because it was not nessarily a 9 to 5 job, they sometimes were assigned other responsibilities. Military musicians in war had duties like grave patrol.
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  13. BassBrass


    Jul 6, 2009
    Boston MA
    Bunk you just posted the coolest person who ever lived, that's a distraction from the topic of ruffian musicians of the middle ages. Here's another sidewinder but just slightly off center. Lots or modern trumpet players use this much off centeredness usually why they are bearded. The beautiful vocal quality of cornetto brings me back to the discussion about fretless guitar. Cornetto is superior so what if it's almost unplay-able.
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  14. Spidey2112


    Aug 3, 2016
    I assure you, that's not a potato in my pants... and it's been said I can slice and dice any cover tune, with the best of them.

    Viva la Middle Earth!
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  15. Bajo Clarkko

    Bajo Clarkko

    Aug 9, 2015
    “911” is what whatever you have in your nightstand.
    Or any other convenient place, for that matter.
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  17. Bulltrout

    Bulltrout Supporting Member

    Jun 13, 2007
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Cool article. Wasn’t expecting to read that before breakfast.
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  18. TeaTime


    Feb 8, 2020
    Decades ago I was a competitive fencer. Really good at it, just a couple steps from the top tier. My final year I had to change coaches twice because they wouldn't waste their time on someone who probably could have reached the top...if they wouldn't waste so much time playing bass in bars.

    No one ever told me I could have merged the two! Well, to be fair, one guy had a dream of creating a pirate metal band (Alestorm wasn't yet a thing) but he was a drummer and had a fondness for mushrooms so we paid him little mind.
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  19. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    Please disperse or we’ll deploy the bass solo!
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  20. Stevorebob

    Stevorebob Well... I Am Here, Aren't I? Supporting Member

    Sep 29, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Arm the buskers! Protect our citizens! ;)
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