Musicians Friend “Open Box Condition 2” - What to Expect?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Lowbrow, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Allentown, PA!
    Any experience into to the actual condition of instruments that fall into this category?
     
  2. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    What did they say when you contacted them?
     
  3. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Allentown, PA!
    Didn’t. I’m seeking real-life experience of TB members who do not work for MF.
     
  4. John Freeman

    John Freeman Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Happy Valley, PA
    Every instrument is different. They typically list the flaws on the website. If not, call them.

    I bought Condition 1 items on several occasions and all have been like new.
     
  5. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Allentown, PA!
    Thanks - for my part, I bought an open-box amp head - don't recall the specific condition designation - and the only ways it deviated from factory fresh were some finger smudges around the knobs and the power cable wasn't coiled super neatly. No experience with basses tho, but if the amp experience is any indication these's not much to be concerned about.
     
  6. Plectrum72

    Plectrum72 Supporting Member

    I bought a Condition 2 (comparable to floor model in store) Epi Thunderbird IV Pro last week. It arrived in near perfect condition. There was a very minor ding at the top of the headstock and another minor ding on the bottom edge of the lower bout near where your forearm would rest. My wife and bandmates didn't even notice until I pointed it out to them. No other flaws in the finish or playability. They're good about describing condition, I'd say.
     
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  7. cholyoke

    cholyoke Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2016
    Rubber City
    I bought one of the Fender Special Edition Deluxe PJ basses that was condition 2 (blemished). I have no idea what caused them to drop the price by 300, but I am glad to have the bass. Maybe it was due to a small dark layer (thin width, short length) parallel to the grain of the neck. It is a fantastic bass.
     
  8. Gorn

    Gorn Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    I've bought a few b stock or blemished or open box stuff from them and the conditions have been all over the place. From clearly used to mint. I don't know how they grade these things but their descriptions are meaningless, IMO.
     
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  9. John Freeman

    John Freeman Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Happy Valley, PA
    Right. MF customer service is very good and they have an excellent return policy.

    The only caveat I found with buying open box items is pricing. If you call them, they can sometimes offer a discount that takes the price of the brand new one down to a few bucks more or even less than the open box. So I would start by calling them for a discount on the new one and if that doesn't work, ask about the open box. The only time I wouldn't do this is if the actual photos of the open box show extremely nice wood choices or a favorable weight is listed.

    All in, I believe you have very little risk going with a Condition 2 item.
     
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  10. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Allentown, PA!
    Thanks - seems like a good bet. Especially for any of you who are interested in snagging the open-box sunburst American Original 60s P they currently have online for about 30 percent below 'new.' Savings = $565. Pretty amazing discount.
     
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  11. Blues Bass 2

    Blues Bass 2 Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2001
    Davenport Iowa
    I bought an Ibanez Talman 605 from them as a blem . I don't know if that is the same as an open box but I didn't have a great experience with mine . The bass was really dirty , had scratches on the pickguard from playing hard with a pick and the bass/treble stacked pots were loose . It looked like someone had used it on a tour and not taken care of it at all . I decide to fix what was wrong instead of sending it back , luckily I had a nut for the loose controls and cleaned it all up and re-set it up . I've never received a bass that was supposedly new in that bad a shape . I've had very good success with MF on many other deals but that one was pretty bad . I still have that bass and it's great but I won't trust them for a blem or a second or open box item again .
     
  12. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Allentown, PA!
    Closing the loop here - this worked out wonderful well - got a pretty darn perfect American Original 60s Precision for about $575 (30%) off!

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  13. cholyoke

    cholyoke Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2016
    Rubber City
    Very nice!
     
  14. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    ooh...nice! Congrats. So was there any major sign of use that justifies knocking 30% off the price? I bought a condition 3 bass a while back and other than a pretty deep gouge on the front of the bass, it was new. The box was damaged and had a hole in it that went through the box and dinged the front of the bass. The ding was deeper than I had thought, but for the price, it was worth it.
     
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  15. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Allentown, PA!
    It took two days of looking but I’m pretty sure this small finish imperfection was reason for the bass’ blem status. Fine with me!!

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  16. B-Mac

    B-Mac Happiness is a warm puppy and a great bass Gold Supporting Member

    My Schechter Studio Stiletto 5 string was open box and was no different than brand spanking new. Came with all the case candy and the OHSC. I got a lower price because it was treated by the seller like it was a demo even though it was never on display. It was never sold to anyone and then returned.
    The seller was 'Open Box Music' of Carlsbad, CA. It was my first 'Open Box' purchase through REVERB and it was a pleasant experience with no problems at all. openboxmusic
    That was my experience.