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MXR Sub Octave Bass Fuzz or Red Witch Zeus?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Hi-End Basses, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. Hi-End Basses

    Hi-End Basses

    Apr 20, 2015
    Looking at Sub Octave Bass Fuzzes. MXR has what I'm sure is a great pedal. That being said, I have an affinity towards some of the more high end pedals. The Red Witch Zeus is about $100 more. Does anyone have experience with these two pedals, and those of you with the Zeus, is the extra buck worth it to you?
  2. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    I only have the MXR, but I've heard some demos of the Zeus. I like how the Zeus has separate switches for the fuzz and octaver, whereas the MXR has a master on-off and octaver (might look into a mod at some point because I like the idea of separate switches). But I like the sound of the fuzzes on the MXR better, especially the midrangey one that sounds something like the MXR Bass Distortion set on stun.
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  3. Nighttrain1127

    Nighttrain1127 Supporting Member

    Nov 27, 2004
    Near Worcester MA
    The thing with the Zeus is you have to play with the internal pots to get the sound you want and the balance of Fuzz to Octave . But once you do the Zeus is nothing short of amazing IMHO. Plus as stated above you can use the octave that tracks well and sounds very organic/natural and the fuzz separately. I tried out both but went with the Zeus. I just like what the Sputter control brings to the sound plus you can do Hi Gain with the flick of a switch.
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  4. DDXdesign

    DDXdesign formerly 'jammadave' Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 15, 2003
    Wash DC metro area
    The SubOctave Bass Fuzz, if I am not mistaken, cannot be used to give you just an octave down by itself, unless you turn the fuzz level off. So in that way, it's not the 2-in-1 that the Zeus is, having both sides independent of one another.
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  5. Andy westwood

    Andy westwood

    Nov 30, 2014
    PedalBoard Solutions
    cough cough........

    there both great! the octave in the redwitch is massive sounding! the mxr is on my board now as it sounds really cool with the sub, fuzz and octave up on!
  6. Yes, i do like my sub machine and it's still on the board. Still both those others i feel i'd be just as happy with. It's down to personal taste...
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  7. I have to dismiss the MXR and the Redwitch to suggest getting an Emma Electronic Okto-Nøjs. Such an incredible pedal. Offers more control of both the octave circuit and the fuzz circuit vs the MXR and Redwitch. But don't just take my word for it, do a quick YouTube search, there are some very good demos of it.

    I got one a couple of weeks ago and it's fast becoming my favourite pedal.
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  8. Ba55Man1ac

    Ba55Man1ac Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    Sydney, Australia
    Sign up to the Red Witch mailing list - they have amazing sales a couple of times a year.
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  9. DDXdesign

    DDXdesign formerly 'jammadave' Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 15, 2003
    Wash DC metro area
    I wanted to love the Okto Nojs so badly, but with the setup I had at the time it just didn't work out, the tracking was not good despite Emma's claims and demos. Might try another if I can find one on the cheap. I love my hidden-gem Slash octave fuzz (i use the octave down without its fuzz, plus the switchable upper-octave fuzz).
  10. Mine tracks as well if not better than my other octavers (Aguilar Octamizer, 3Leaf Octabvre, COG T16 and a DOD Meatbox) so I'm surprised to hear that. What basses were you using with it?
  11. DDXdesign

    DDXdesign formerly 'jammadave' Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 15, 2003
    Wash DC metro area
    I just had a passive PJ Ibanez Talman TMB30 - tried it with and without compression in front and everything! VERY surprised, same as you are now upon reading of my experience.
  12. Hmmm...well since you've presumably replaced it with something else I suppose we can't really troubleshoot in hindsight can we!
  13. THIS!

    They just had a stupidly great sale, which I had to pass on (Synthotron :crying:) — but I got the Zeus previously for a stupendously low sum, half off if I recall accurately.
    Since Redwitch just had a sale, it might be a wee while before they have another.
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  14. DDXdesign

    DDXdesign formerly 'jammadave' Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 15, 2003
    Wash DC metro area
    this is true! but maybe I'll have another someday.
  15. Pacodelivery

    Pacodelivery Supporting Member

    May 25, 2014
    The Zeus has a great oc2 inside it.

    The fuzz, meh. I'm not the most sympathetic audience, with a low output bass and an aversion to fuzz faces.

    Together is pretty sweet.

    The fuzz being off and the octave running into my tfr is better.

    I already have an oc2, tho. It's less shiny I guess.
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