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My amp just died on a gig...

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by bass12, Oct 22, 2010.


  1. bass12

    bass12 Say "Ahhh"... Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    ...luckily I was able to go through the PA. I just came back from a gig where my Ampeg SVT III Pro basically died. I say "basically" because at first it wasn't giving me anything, then I would suddenly get some low-volume distorted sound, and then it would go clean before distorting again or cuting out completely. The amp has actually done this a bit before (fairly recently), but never to the point of not finally "settling in" and performing as it normally would. Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be (from my vague description). Could this be an issue with the tubes? The amp is around six years old and I've never had the tubes replaced. Thanks for any input you might have.
     
  2. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    could be a bad tube, could be the mosfets needing rebiasing. if you have a spare tube or two, try switching out tubes one at a time. if it doesn't change, then it probably needs rebiased.

    and yes, a tech needs to do it or you'll burn your amp up.
     
  3. bass12

    bass12 Say "Ahhh"... Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    Hey Jimmy - I was hoping you'd chime in. I'll take the amp to a tech as soon as I find one! I'm guessing that one of the Ampeg dealers in my area should have a capable enough tech on hand. I'll check...
     
  4. did you have a DI pedal at the ready ?
     
  5. bass12

    bass12 Say "Ahhh"... Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    No, but I was able to go straight into the board with a 1/4" cable.
     
  6. anderbass

    anderbass

    Dec 20, 2005
    Phoenix. Az.
    Did you already try patching a cord across your fx-loop? If not give it a shot, might just be dirty switching contacts in your Return jack.
     
  7. My svt3 pro did something similar not too long ago. well actually it didn't give any sound to the speakers at all, but the line output was still working properly.
    The tech that repaired it explained what it was, but I forgot most of it :rolleyes: It had something to do with the tube gain section, something got fried and as a result something else did as well. One tube was replaced.
    Most importantly the amp was easily fixed and is sounding even better then before.
     
  8. Jefenator

    Jefenator Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2008
    Oregon
    Nice to have that PA option, huh?

    I learned last month: our powered mixer w/ a couple of 12" mains isn't much of a bass rig, but it's 1000000 times better than nothing! :D

    (I also learned, I should stop being a lazy schmuck and bring the LMII for backup.)
     
  9. bass12

    bass12 Say "Ahhh"... Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    I took my amp into the shop today. With any luck the tech won't have any difficulty identifying the source of the problem and I'll have the amp back within a week. We'll see...
     
  10. +1.
     
  11. stiles72

    stiles72

    Mar 20, 2009
    Albany IL
    +1

    Check your line out signals and if they are good and clean, it's probably in your last 2 driver tubes or the MOSFET bias needs adjusted. Had this happen to both of my 3pros. Anything beyond swapping tubes around - take it to a tech.
     
  12. StyleOverShow

    StyleOverShow Still Playing After All These Years Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2008
    Portland
    Six years and no problems, then perhaps a bad tube. Not too bad reliability, really. I have the same head, or anchor more accurately, and it has never needed to 'settle in', just warm up.

    Any estimate on the damages?
     
  13. stiles72

    stiles72

    Mar 20, 2009
    Albany IL
    MOSFET bias adjustment should just be a bench fee - mine was like $30
     
  14. Jerrold Tiers

    Jerrold Tiers

    Nov 14, 2003
    St Louis
    Mosfet bias doesn't do that, at least not if anything close to reasonable...... it can make some distortion.

    Something in the tube driver section, or possibly a problem with the circuit that keeps the DC offset very low come to mind..... Those or maybe a problem with the circuit that provides the bias current to the mosfets (not the same thing as the actual bias circuit).
     

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