My craigslist add and some questions:

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by ZBirdV8, Jan 2, 2015.

  1. ZBirdV8


    Feb 26, 2012
    Detroit Michigan
    UPDATE: REVISED AD JAN 29th 2015 on Page 2.

    First off is the add OK?

    Secondly, is having your girlfriend in the band just kryponite? We are very close and she can keep time and sing very solidly. However, a while ago I lost a drummer I really liked because he completely freaked out at the suggestion that she sing for us.

    That's all I got for now but I'll pop in from time to time as I think of other stuff to ask. Just trying to do this right.
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2015
  2. crucislancer

    crucislancer Supporting Member

    Dec 25, 2009
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    The ad seems ok to me, the only change I would suggest is to state what musicians you need, just to clarify what positions are open in the band or what you don't want.

    As far as having your girlfriend sing? I don't know. There's a stigma associated with it because if your personal life with your girlfriend turns sour it can affect the rest of the band, and that can be a very uncomfortable position to be in for the rest of the band. But, if you and your GF can be aware of it, and do your best to keep your personal life out of the band side of things, then it should be ok.

    Doom/Detroit rock. Seems like an interesting combo!
  3. BazzTard

    BazzTard Inactive

    dude, don't do it........

    I've never ever ever seen a couple in a band work out well.

    I adore the Beatles, and loved seeing Sir Paul and Wings in 1975.....

    BUT, Linda on keys? PLEASE! most ten year olds with 2 lessons under their belts were better than her.
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  4. ZBirdV8


    Feb 26, 2012
    Detroit Michigan
    Yeah man I just love that late 60's early 70's Detroit thing. The lead singers really go for it and the crowd working was awesome too. Put that with the solid riff structures of Black Sabbath and I think the music is ready made for a city that's been downtrodden.

    Girlfriend and I have been solid for 5years (Working on making it wife), and she actually has talent, it wouldn't be some half-hearted Yoko Ono ********.
  5. i have to say you're a bit of a downer
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  6. ZBirdV8


    Feb 26, 2012
    Detroit Michigan
    Well Space Pickle, that's why I play doom metal.

    Doom metal is an extreme form of heavy metal music that typically uses slower tempos, low-tuned guitars and a much "thicker" or "heavier" sound than other metal genres. Both the music and the lyrics intend to evoke a sense of despair, dread, and impending doom
  7. Some thoughts...

    1. The ad doesn't seem to say what pieces of the band you're looking for.

    2. Where you say "It doesn't call for great technicality so it should be palatable to any skill level. Even if you literally just picked up an electric guitar, if this style speaks to you, shoot me a text."

    From my perspective (trying to view the ad as something I might be interested in), this would have potential to put off someone skilled/experienced who might otherwise be interested. If you truly would take on someone who just picked up their instrument, maybe leave that unsaid, and let that person approach you. If it happens that way, it happens that way. I would assume your first preference would be for people with more experience.

    You might consider something like this

    "It doesn't call for great technicality as much as a feel for the music, so it's more important that this style speaks to you than it is that you're highly skilled."

    3. Where you say "I am not the best musician, but I can offer a clear vision of what the band I play in to sound like."

    I don't think you should down yourself. IMO, it's unnecessary and doesn't do anything to draw people in. As above, it could put off the perfect guitarist or drummer. People will find out about your playing after they meet you.

    Maybe just

    "I'm offering a clear vision of what this band will sound like."

    4. Maybe the thing with your girlfriend singing would work, maybe it wouldn't. That's up to you to decide whether or not to try. IMO, leave it out of the ad. You're saying you have a firm vision, and then you get all wish-washy.

    I'd say hold that part of your plan to yourself, and if it works to bring them in later, bring them in later.

    Good luck...or whatever is appropriate for someone striving to create about doom, death, depression, loss and struggles...
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  8. ZBirdV8


    Feb 26, 2012
    Detroit Michigan
    Thanks man, next ad that I do I will make those amendments.

  9. callofcthulhu


    Oct 16, 2012
    People think he's insane because he is frowning all the time.

    Make a joke and he will sigh, and you will laugh, and he will cry.

    I second everything Dr. Pepper said.

    I'm stoked to hear the music you come up with.
  10. ZBirdV8


    Feb 26, 2012
    Detroit Michigan
    "I'm stoked to hear the music you come up with."

  11. Gaolee

    Gaolee Official leathers tester and crash dummy

    Girlfriend/wife in band? Seems to work just fine for Mellowinman.
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  12. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Springtown, Texas
    I would not answer that ad. It doesn't sound at all professional. I doubt you will get any interest from people who can actually play.
    Sorry, but it is my honest opinion.
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  13. Runnerman

    Runnerman Registered Bass Player

    Mar 14, 2011
    Two reasons for "NO" to the girlfriend.

    1) Girlfriends and boyfriends break up. When they break more band...or at the very least, you are looking for a new vocalist.
    2) You say she :keeps time and can sing solidly". Sorry but that's not enough for a lead vocalist/front person.

    If you want success you need someone that can own the song and is a great vocalist. From the audience perspective they are the focus and most important person in the band. So if you think she can take you there fine but I don't get that vibe from your post.
  14. Just an FYI (in case you didn't know), you can edit CL ads.
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  15. Lobster11

    Lobster11 Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    A few things occur to me that haven't been mentioned yet:

    1. I assume you want to turn this into a gigging band, but that isn't clear from the ad. When you say, in effect, "I'm not all that good, and you don't have to be either," it sounds to me like you're looking for a just-for-fun hobby band. Of course, that's fine if it's what you want, but emphasizing that skill level isn't very important makes it sound like you're not interested in getting gigs (or hiring anyone who is gig-ready).

    2. There are hints in the ad that you want to write your own songs, but it isn't entirely clear if the goal is to be an all-originals band versus a cover band. Might be good to be more explicit about that.

    3. Something seems troubling to me that you mention your girlfriend and other friend as potential band members, but then seem willing to throw them under the bus if someone new wants you to. This would make me wonder just how committed you are to the girlfriend (see others' comments above), and also how loyal you would be to me if I joined the band. Would you toss me out as soon as someone else joined who didn't want me in the band?

    Just my $0.02 worth.
  16. RustyAxe


    Jul 8, 2008
    I don't think anyone with real chops would give the ad a second thought. Everything reads "rank amateur band". You might get some response from starry-eyed wannabees, though.
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  17. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Sep 7, 2006
    Blimp City USA
    Ads like these on my local CL get others to respond with negative posts. I ignore them.
  18. Runnerman

    Runnerman Registered Bass Player

    Mar 14, 2011
    Agree 100%. Plus you never say in the ad what musicians you are looking for.
  19. Torrente Cro

    Torrente Cro

    Sep 5, 2013
    I vote NO for girfriend. It makes it hard for anyone else to disagree with you in any matter, couse you already have majority. It makes it hard for others to participate and creates unhappy band(mates)
  20. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Inactive

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    Since you're asking.
    • Nobody cares what your stage name is. If I was looking for a band I would stop reading there.
    • If you are wiling to play with someone who literally just picked up the guitar, you probably won't find anyone decent that will even answer the ad; no one wants to train a beginner. I would drop that line and that thought.
    • Unless you absolutely suck, I wouldn't say you aren't the best musician, again it scares off people that can play.
    Forget playing with your girlfriend. It almost never works out. There aren't many guys that can stand there and watch a bunch of drunk butt heads hitting on their girlfriend without getting jealous, mad, distracted, etc.
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