i just became 2nd chair bass in my school orchestra today. The 1st chair died, just kidding, i challanged for the spot and won. It shows how awful the bass section is, i've been playing upright for about 1-2 months, i've been playing in orchestra for about a month, but i started playing a little bit before that. In that amount of time i learned to read bass clef. I've played bass for years (8) may not seem to be long, but keep in mind, i'm still in school, but i never took the time to read the clef.