this is the story: I play in a band ( www.evils.nl ) and play around 3 times per month, and my bass of choice (a epi thunderbird IV) was getting her bridge re-done (i play with a slightly bigger string tension becouse i play in C with B strings) so i had to miss my baby for a few weeks because our tech here is very very good but a bit slow.... so it was time to look for a good backup bass... the internet search started. i like old stuff, i also play a fender 300ps for instance, and the epi looks vintage too! and there is was... a 1980 passive Ibanez Musician bass fretted.... it's heavy, strong, all i wanted... but i bought it for backup... played it for one practice to break in the strings, and after that night i never played my epi again.... its that good! I love my Ibanez! any more passive ibanez musician lovers around here?