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My Mesa 410 does not have enough thump, now what?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Droog, Nov 15, 2005.


  1. Droog

    Droog

    Aug 14, 2003
    PDX
    Started playing out with my band recently and have come realize the my 410 is not cutting it. :mad: I have just been running a DI into the house then pumping some "thump" through the house subs. Not sure that I want to keep doing that.

    Do I have to add a 15 to my rig? I don't really want to haul around more stuff or get a super cab that takes 4 guys to move. What are my options?

    Kind of thinking about saving my pennies for the likes of a Shroeder 21012, but thats lots o money on something that I can't demo. Maybe the Acme B-4, a little cheaper? Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and get a 15 to set the 410 on.

    Well, thanks for the input.

    For what its worth I play a Spector Rebop 4string tuned low and my amp is a 400+.
     
  2. xb100

    xb100

    Mar 24, 2004
    NH, In
    I would suggest getting the schroeder. Just about everyone who has gotten one loves em to death. Talk to Jorq he will set ya up, give him a few emails or something describing the type of sound you are looking for and he will give you advice as what to get if you do go the schroeder route.

    Best of luck to ya man!


    -Rob
     
  3. peterpalmieri

    peterpalmieri Supporting Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Babylon, NY
    try setting your 400+ flat with the bass knob at 3 o'clock, that should give it plenty of thump. I've played that set up before and it can do it no problem!
     
  4. Droog

    Droog

    Aug 14, 2003
    PDX
    Yeah, I'll mess with my settings tomorrow night. I guess maybe I am worried about feeding that cab a whole lot of low end energy, sound stupid I know.
     
  5. Yeah just play with those settings man. Mesa cabs roar.
     
  6. BurningSkies

    BurningSkies CRAZY BALDHEAD

    Feb 20, 2005
    Seweracuse, NY

    I'm assuming you know that flat on your Mesa is 0-10-0. From there, don't scoop your mid too far and bump your bass up. I have a bass heavy sound and I push my bass setting from 6-8, which is seriously boosted.
     
  7. Adam Barkley

    Adam Barkley Mayday!

    Aug 26, 2003
    Jackson, MS
    My experience with a Schroeder 1210 didn't give me thump at all. My Ampeg 410 has more low end than the Schroeder, but the Schroeder was much more clear sounding. Ultimately it ended up not being what I wanted from a cab.
     
  8. kdogg

    kdogg

    Nov 13, 2005
    Ohio
    If you can, demo a 1x15. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. A run an SWR SM-500 head, and originally grabbed an SWR Goliath III 4x10. Did a show with it, and had the same problem you described. The 4x10 sounded great, with plenty of punch and clarity, just not enough low end push. I added the Son Of Bertha 1x15, and voila, all the punch and clarity plus the nice warm bottom I was missing. It's a great combination. Although, certainly not the only option. :eyebrow:
     
  9. Droog

    Droog

    Aug 14, 2003
    PDX
    I have shows this weekend and I managed to borrow a mesa 15 if I need to. I think I will get it and see how it goes. Though I hope the 410 will cut it by itself, on the other hand a huge Mesa rig would be kinda cool to look at, I'll have to take a picture :D

    abark000; thanks for the input on the Shroeder, they seem to be pretty hi fi, and in all honesty I am not. Maybe if I could demo one sometime.
     
  10. Tash

    Tash

    Feb 13, 2005
    Bel Air Maryland
    I had a Powerhouse 410 for 24 hours before deciding it was not enough. Adding a 15 to that stack realy kicks things to a new level. I ended up trading it for a Powerhouse 1000 (410/115 in a single cab), which has monstrous low end. Its also monstrously heavy but easier to manage due to the tilt back casters, etc.
     
  11. buzzbass

    buzzbass Shoo Shoo Retarded Flu !

    Apr 23, 2003
    NJ
    Tell me more about that cab, I'm down to one of those or a schroeder 310212. I need big clean low end and lot's of volume. Will this do the trick. Any input you have would be greatly appreciated, since I know of no one else who owns one of these.
     
  12. Droog

    Droog

    Aug 14, 2003
    PDX
    Yeah the 1000 would be great but its damn heavy pretty $$$ as well, though in reality you spend that much on a 410 and a 15 if bought seperately. Do you have trouble taking it up stairs and such?
     
  13. pickles

    pickles Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    Adding a 1x15 does it best in my experience. They usually weight a lot less than a 4x10 ... you won't mind hauling it as much as you'll like hearing it.