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Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by catcauphonic, Oct 12, 2013.
Egg-cellent !! Glad it's working out so far.
I think the #1 thing a new bassist needs to have to get out there and land a gig is Attitude.
I did not get back playing till 40 and played guitar in the past (high school) never bass. When I had try outs with bands some said we have had better bass players than you but your attitude and the way you carry yourself makes you our guy.
Totally agree. Just picked up bass couple years ago myself (early 40's), and been in a cover jam for about six months. Pretty comfortable with enough tunes, and jam going sort-of-sideways, so been looking around myself.
Ended up auditioning last week with a couple guys for a couple of hours. Figured I was in over my head, but I'll tell you, by the end of the two hours I knew my fretboard a hell of a lot better, and what I needed to focus on in my practices. And that I really need to be in an originals gig not a covers gig. Probably learned more about myself and where I am / want to go as a bassist in those two hours as the last few months.
PS - I was in over my head, they decided to keep looking, but I'm still looking too.
Very cool. Congrats!
Ha, I was just telling my wife this about bands this afternoon while we were driving around town. I get a lot of music from bands (I'm a new music blogger), and invariably the ones that aren't that good think they're totally awesome ... and the totally awesome bands are the ones that are pretty humble and keep working their ass off.
Inspiring to me personally as a new older bassist. Please keep posting
I think another thing to do is know your abilites and be true to them.
If you can't read or can't do it well don't go to an audition that you need to read, can't slap..yadda ..yadda. When I was starting out there was a local blues band that I loved..great band. I saw they were holding try outs and called.
They were open to having me come in to play and gave me a few songs to learn. The BL asked right before we hung up the phone "You can read music right? I said no, he said he did not see it working out since they use fake books but I was open to still come out.
I said thanks but no thanks.
Focus on the music you can play well and aim for a band doing that style..Blues, classic rock etc.
You can woodshed to get better or take lessions or be like me and just be a solid player, no flash..solid pocket player. It worked for me and I'm average at best... can't read a lick of music.
If I had a dime for everytime I heard " You really serve the song and don't get all crazy or flashy like the last bass player did"
Congratulations, man! Sounds like you're off to a great start.
+1 too. I haven't seen a lot of bass players audition (for obvious reasons), but I've seen a few drummers and guitarists, and.... oh man. You wonder what they're thinking. We had one guy audition for a covers projects with a lot of talk about all these gigs he had played, how his last band was the only cover band ever to get hired by a prestigious casino that normally only books national acts, blah blah blah... and totally fumbled through four or five simple songs. I mean, like "Save Tonight."
I'm honored that anyone thinks something I have to say is worth putting in their sig.
I used to have a teacher that said, "You are never as good as you think you are, but you are never as bad as you think you are." He was Principal Bass in the National Symphony Orchestra in the 80's. He had two reviews of his solos on his wall. One said something like, "he plays like an angel," the other was something like, "he plays like a demented dwarf with broken fingers." He said when he was feeling cocky he read one review, when he was feeling down he read the other.
He taught me the greatest lesson a teacher can pass on - humility.
Congrats man, I also just started playing bass 2 years ago (playing guitar since I was 11) and being 39 at the time I thought it would be hard. One thing I learned from a post here that helped me a real lot was to get your self positioned so that you can see the drummers kick foot. This helped me so much to lock in with the drummer.
I usually get some kick in my monitor since lots of stages(with drum risers) and rehearsal studios won't let you see the drummer's foot. Also, I think your neck would get sore or you'd have to turn away from the rest of the band/audience to accomplish that task so I don't think you would look that good from FOH.
I was talking about rehearsals and his second audition, since his first audition was the first time he played with an actual drummer. Yes he should ask for kick in his monitor when they get to playing live, if they have a PA capable of giving him his own mix. For me a visual cue on the drummers foot for one chord progression is enough, and usually quicker than trying to find the sound of the kick in the mix if I get off beat.
Okay, so here's the scoop: The band is undergoing a revitalization period... Girl#1 who sang half of the stuff and took up the bass duties before has another project going that basically takes her out of the equation. Girl#2 who played keys just flaked after a month or so when they played out & recorded those and a few other tracks. They (now we) are trying out a new female singer, and a keys player.
The drummer and the guitar player wrote all the songs, so the core sound hopefully won't change too much ... as I'm really enthused about their material so far. These guys are really easygoing and encouraging, which I'm grateful for. Even though I'd only played with a drummer before on a few songs at an open mic, I don't seem to have any trouble locking in with him ... and the guitarist has a great sense of rhythm too. I've been keeping one eye on what he's playing and watching the drummer with the other.
I'm hoping we can get the lineup settled soon, and then really polish the hell out of these tunes. I need to start recording these practices to hear the weak spots, as well as what lines work best within the songs. There's much tinkering to be done with the bass parts, as the exited chick was just playing roots. Definitely the most fun I have all week is getting together with this band. Oh, and they have an Ampeg-V4 & 4x10 there that I can use
Ya, nothing like better musicians around you to up your game. Keep at it and you will eventually find the right situation
practice rig too? Swee-eet.
I have a rep as a steady in-the-pocket player as well.
Some folks were surprised seeing the 3pc projects where I get to throw down.
"Wow dude, I didn't know you could solo like a fiend while eating a maraschino cherry off a stripper's navel"