my first bass was a lyon by washburn. it's a total POS, except that it has such a resonant body. i put bartolini pickups in it and i get this incredible, resonant, growling sound from it. i was mucking around with its setup today and tried taking the neck off. i couldn't believe what i saw. it's plywood inside! i love the sounds i get from it, and i was hoping it was something like basswood, so i could replicate its sound in a nicer bass. no dice. there's nothing nice about this bass, except its sound. check it out: robb.