My PODxt observations/questions

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by IcedEarthWOM, Nov 26, 2005.

  1. IcedEarthWOM


    Oct 2, 2005
    I'm planning on getting a Bass PODxt with the FBV ShortBoard sometime after my birthday next year and I'd like to post some of my questions/observations on POD reviews/comments from this site. Not looking to get flamed by anyone, but just curious on some answers. Also, I have downloaded and read most (the first 3/4 at least) of the manual (it's a great read :D).

    (All questions relate to the xt versions of the POD only)

    1. Some of you say the POD is not for suitable for live application, and some of you say it's fine. Logically I'm more inclined to believe the latter group because of 2 things. One, the reviews from that group go into more detail that just "it sucks" and they mention years of real world experience. And, two, because the manual goes into great detail on how to set it up for going thru any setup (which all makes sense: when recording you D.I. to a board, same as live, plus if you turn off the cab modeling, the POD is basically a true preamp, plug into a power amp and go...).

    2. Every review I've read where someones gotten great tone from the POD, they've also mentioned that it took a lot of tweaking. This question is to all of you that say you can't get a good sound from the POD: Did you read the manual past the "I don't need a manual" page, and did you spend more than one day trying to get it to work.

    3. One final question, this one on modeling accuracy. A lot of you say that the amp/cab and effects models suck. Where you looking for a replacement for the real thing? No model will ever be the same as the real thing. Never. There are just too many real-world variables (line 6 comes right out and says that in the manual to). I'm buying one for the sounds IT will produce and not as a replacement for something else. It's just like the V-Wah I own, I bought it for it having X number of DIFFERENT wah's and not because I wanted a Dunlop, a Vox, and a Morly but didn't want to pay for all of them. Trust me, if I wanted a CryBaby wah, I'd damnwell go out and get one. Just like if I wanted an SVT, I'd go out and buy it.
  2. BassMan Biff

    BassMan Biff

    Nov 16, 2005
    I do not own any POD series of Line6 products...I have a V-bass and I saw your post and I believe I can answer SOME of your questions- But I have to pose a question to you myself: Why don't you just get the POD xt LIVE? Seems that this will do the same thing as the POD xt and the floorboard at almost half the price...

    OK- on to question 1)

    - Didn't see the "question" there...but I'll bite...I guess the question is using one live...can't help you out there other than the "live" version would probably work better for you.

    Onto Question 2)

    EVERY multi-effects unit will take ALOT of tweaking to get the tone you're looking for just right. I really don't know where they get these clowns that program the factory setups from, but they are almost never right for real-world applications. I look at it this way: Think of the factory presets as "what it can do" rather than "what it will do".

    Now we go to "Amp Modeling" or "Modeling in General"

    Modeling is not as difficult as one might think- it's been done for almost 20 years! Put in the equation of "digital" modeling and you have a tried and true representation of what a certain amp/cabnet/bass will do. Of course you will find people that don't like it...hell, THEY spent the money to get the real thing- what would you THINK they'd say?

    For the most part, modeling is pretty much dead on. No, it will not sound like your friend's SVT with all the setting it has, but it will sound like the Spirit of that rig and that's the important part. You do a little tweaking here and there and you'll get it right- but do not rely on the presets!
  3. 1. you can use a POD live. Granted, maybe the presets may not be gig-ready right away, but after a little tweaking, you are good to go.

    2. tweaking can be easy if you have a certain sound in mind. Its like driving. you won't get to your destination if you don't know where you are going. tweaking can take anywhere from two seconds to two days.

    3. as for modeling, i think you are right. you probably won't get a spot on ampeg SVT or Acoustic 360, because there are as lot of variables...speakers, cabinet wood, cabinet size, the condition of the speaker, etc. you won't get exactly the same...BUT...Biff is right. The models are most likely very true to the original, but people don't see the original amp and cab, so they don't think it'll sound the guess is that on a recording, you'd never tell the difference...
  4. IcedEarthWOM


    Oct 2, 2005
    Just so you guys know, I was kinda tired and needed to vent on all the "It just sucks" posts I'd been reading :( . sorry.....

    The reason I don't get the live version is that I'm going to get the regular PODxt as well. It just makes more sense to me to get the two PODs and one floorboard. That and I hate the idea of bending over all the time when I'm going to tweek it, I'd rather have the POD at hand level and the board on the floor.
  5. Embryodead

    Embryodead Inactive

    Nov 30, 2005
    Providence, RI
    Deleted my own post cause it was against the rules.

    Check your PM
  6. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Saint Louis, MO USA
    I used the original Bass POD Pro rack for a great long time. I found it VERY useful. It sounded good on tape. It worked nicely when playing live with no amp and served very well as a preamp for a more conventional rig.

    1. Tweaking: My experience was exactly opposite. I can't tell you how many times I would mess with the thing over and over and fill up very bank with custom sounds, only to reset the thing to the factory presets. I always got the best sound with a factory preset, dial in a little compression and there you go.

    2. Modeling is what it is. I think it sounds fine. In the context of a live mix, it works very well. On the POD pro, which sounds as good as the XT but offers different models, the amp models were excellent. The effects models were less useful IMO. Not because of their sound, but because they do require more teaking than an amp model.
  7. SteveC

    SteveC Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    NE ND
    I just bought a PodXT again. I am debating dumping my Eden head and going exclusivly PodXT. I A/B'ed the Eden model with my real Eden and it was so close that the difference didn't really matter. I used a Pod before and got great results live.

    You do need to tweak. I bought the BassSmith software ($51) and it is great. Lets you see everything at once, move patches, etc. Makes ALL the difference in making the PodXT more useful.

    The models are models. They are close. If nothing else, you get a lot of good tone options.

    It sounds to me like you have the right attitude and approach to have success with a PodXT. If you take just a little time, tweak and experiment, you'll get some nice tones in an all-in-one package that is also very portable.
  8. IcedEarthWOM


    Oct 2, 2005
    Thanks dude.
    It kinda sucks that I can't get one now :bawl: ($$$$ issues, I'm sure we all have them....) but I got the rig I want "geeked" by Petary791 and I have it tacked to the wall :smug: . That'll keep my eye on the prize!!!

    My geeked rig (thanks again to Petary791 :D :D :D ):

  9. IcedEarthWOM


    Oct 2, 2005
    Though I like Petary791's geeking here's my attempt:

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