Hello folks, This is my first post. Quick history: I've been a drummer for 31 years, I started out in local drum corps, then DCA Corps, DCI in Garfield NJ, then set, Jazz lessons, double bass, prog stuff, fusion, etc.. I was a career Drum student because I couldn't learn enough. I learned to read and write music and play big band cold off horn charts. Tony Williams complex. 8/10/2003 me and my motorcycle were run over by a car. I still got my legs but the right doesn't bend more than 30 deg. and the left barely works... It's actually hard to type this **** cause I don't talk about it. I can play the bass drum with my left foot... but it's tuff to meter / keep solid time without a steady hihat. DON'T EVER DO ANYTHING THAT MAY HURT YOUR ABILITY TO PLAY THE INSTRUMENT YOU LOVE. Anyways- I play a little guitar, but while playing acoustic jazz I fell in love with the bass. I would sit and stare at the strings... I wanted to play Miles / Ron Carter stuff all the time... and fast, My funny Valentine 4 and more fast. Bass players would be like "dude, take it easy". Then I got into the Hayden and Sun Ra stuff and no one wanted to play with me for a while I can't play upright, at least I don't think I can, unless I use it to hold me up. So I'd like an electric bass that can give me that sound when needed... maybe not exactly but close. Now here's my other problem... I grew up a punk rocker, black flag, Agnostic front, minor threat, then Nausea, Extreme noise Terror, driller killer, casualties, mostly NYC and DC stuff, English stuff, then early primus with Tim Herb and other 90's prog stuff i.e. technical hardcore like Candiria or Iceburn. My mom and dad had me listen to gospel, jazz, and sam cooke stuff so in the 70's I'd listen to the Jackson five and Black Sabbath. I was all mixed up. - Drum Corps (Chops), Jazz (skill) and the ability to carry conversation musically by listening, Counter culture angst (artsy crazy). Soooooooo.... I have the slightest idea what kind of bass to buy. The whole fret vs fretless has me way confused. My jazz friends say buy 3 basses - but I can't play very well yet. I like contrast in sounds and range. I learned from listening and reading about Miles to play space. The bass has to sound good when playing open uncluttered compositions. I don't know. My last band was self indulgent Jazz-Core... I couldn't play bass in that band. I know I need a good teacher, and a bass, and an amp. You might say pick a style - I did that once and I was in five bands at one time. Then I quit them all for the one that let me play all kinds of ways with one group. I was thinking high-end used to start. I hate pop music and cheap instruments even if I can't play it. If it's hopeless for me let me know Sorry for being wordy. Please move if required. ps. I couldn't tolerate sucky bass players as a drummer, Now I'm a sucky bass player I was like "don't come here to practice, practice before you come to practice...learn your craft!":scowl: I'm doomed to bass player hell.