Mystery Commodore bass - need information

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Maynn, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. Maynn

    Maynn Guest

    Dec 13, 2014
    Hey,

    I spotted, what looks like a very nice bass guitar. Since I dont know much about bass guitars I though Ill ask here.

    My question is, how good of a bass is this for ska/punk rock. I know it wont be great but I am wondering if any of you have any experience regarding this. Also, how much does that single pickup position affect the sound, will it normally be between a treble and bass sound. And how good of a bass is it overall. The price is 60 pounds with a hard case - seems like a good offer. Cheers!
     

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  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Has that funky early 70s semi-hollow vibe going. I've seen that style bridge before, with the built-in mute, on other similar basses (I don't think it's quite the same as the one on the Epi EA-260.) Some folks love 'em, lots of modern bass players won't touch them, personal taste and music styles. I'd guess it'd be ok for ska, less sure about punk. They do tend to have a "thunky" kind of sound and not tons of sustain. Would you be able to check it out in person before buying it? Getting something that feels and sounds comfortable to you is important.
     
  3. Maynn

    Maynn Guest

    Dec 13, 2014
    Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, the ad is placed where my sister lives, I could maybe get a video of the owner playing at most. Sustain is not as i portant to me when it comes to playing bass. Mostly, I will be playing pretty dynamic basslines.

    I am unsure as to how good this guitar is in regards to quality. The price is £60 with a hard case, seems like good offer.
     
  4. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    That is very inexpensive, as basses go, not sure you'll be happy with it - it could be a great find, it could be junk, most likely somewhere in between. A video of the owner playing it would at least tell you something about the sound.
     
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  5. Honestly, I think it would be very cool in a ska/punk rock type of band (sublime, anyone?).

    It seems to me like a good choice because it probably has that woody bottom end tone that hollow bodies usually have. That tone would definitely suit ska music, and could work well in a punk band.

    At that price, I'd give it a shot.
     
  6. scourgeofgod

    scourgeofgod

    Aug 17, 2006
    Not saying it couldn't fit in a ska band, but why the sublime reference? Eric Wilson doesn't play anything like this, he has a chambered Koll Thunder Glide but it's still a far cry from the Commodore above. From what I can tell he mostly plays fender p style basses.
     
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  7. Maynn

    Maynn Guest

    Dec 13, 2014
    I have talked to someone else about this too and this is what they have said,

    "It's not going to be fantastic quality tbh, it's over 40 years old and may well have deteriorated structurally. A lot of early Japanese manufacture used unseasoned timber, and warped necks can be common, as can body distortion (particularly in hollowbodies like this) under years of string tension.

    Don't buy this if you want a gigging bass that youre going to beat the hell out of, it's really more of a collector's curiosity."

    How much do you agree with this? I was looking to play gigs with this bass very soon.
     
  8. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
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  9. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I've been drooling over those myself - I agree, if OP can afford the difference, that seems a safer bet. The original one could be great, but riskier deal. As my father used to say "You pays your money and you takes your chances" - always true, but to varying degrees.
     
  10. Maynn

    Maynn Guest

    Dec 13, 2014
    Cheers for the input but if not this, I will go for a safe second hand P Bass. I just wanted something different, everyone uses P basses but oh well. Thanks everyone.
     
  11. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    Well, I definitely need a white bass.
     
  12. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    No way to even get a video of it being played? That might help. I'm torn on this, between the "safe bet" P or that Benton and the fun of finding a few true surprise gems on a riskier bet. If only you could try it first. (I have several "cheap junky" basses that were real scores, and a few that didn't turn out so good as well.)
     
  13. MVE

    MVE

    Aug 8, 2010
    This is very good advice.
    I once had a Decca 6 string. It had a twisted neck and was practically unplayable.
    This looks like a cool curiosity and something to break out in the studio for a "different" sound on a track or two but probably not an everyday player.
     
  14. SteveV74

    SteveV74 Inactive

    Jul 24, 2012
    Get it, isnt punk rock about doing whatever the hell you want?
     
  15. Maynn

    Maynn Guest

    Dec 13, 2014
    Not when youre broke and need a bass that will last
     
  16. for 60 you have nothing to lose :cool:
     
  17. Maynn

    £60 is a lot of money when you're broke and UK used prices are high. Most places start at £100 thats $160 guys
    very few $80 GC type deals over here.

    It's the last thing you want, a plain black P bass but these from Thomann are worth considering.

    http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_pb_20_bk_standard_seri_b_stock.htm

    It's £54.60 and delivery adds £7 so hits your budget. 30 days make your mind up time and 3 years warranty come as standard.
    They're decent well built basses that'll do the job and get you gigging. I got one myself a couple of weeks back and it's as better
    as the Squier Affinty I have. Mines was bought to use F# 85 - 175 strings and it handled them well not so the amp:) and last night
    I was speaking with a fella who was using the BEAD strings from a 5 string but tuned up to EADG, he wanted higher tension.

    The necks held up to these tunings no problem.

    So while it's not what you want it will get you playing and at £60 you won't worry about stickers and such but it won't let you down.
     
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  18. GretschWretch

    GretschWretch Supporting Member

    Dec 27, 2013
    East Central Alabama
    It is highly possible YouTube has a demo video of a Commodore or similar badged bass that would give you some notion of the instrument's characteristics. Better than nothing. Also check the 'net for reviews.
     
  19. cdef

    cdef

    Jul 18, 2003
    The pickup reveals it's a Matsumoku-made bass from the late '60s. Those have a good reputation as older Japanese products go, and sell for much more on eBay just because of the factory reference. Now, some hipster post-rock acts may favor such instruments for style, but if you're needing a solid, workable gigging bass for minimal money I agree you have better bets today, like something from Thomann's Harley Benton range.
     
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  20. Maynn

    Maynn Guest

    Dec 13, 2014
    I have decided to be safe and go for the Harley Benton Pbass. The reviews are pretty good and I found the same one as from above but brand new and same price. I am sure it will be good enough for my level of skill and it will last. Cheers everyone for the input.

    P.s. The commodore owner still hasnt replied so no point in waiting.
     
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