NAD: Univox U-1061

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by christw, Dec 28, 2014.

  1. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    Hi guys, I just picked a U-1061 that's been bouncing around craigslist locally. The first I saw it was a few months ago in non-working condition paired with a 212. Eventually it was "taken to a reputable tech" though when I showed up it had a noticeable amount of noise in the EQ section. Word is that he replaced some diodes. I'll find out soon enough. In the end I scooped it up with the cab for $300. Maybe a little high for an amp that needs work but just look at that iron! :hyper:

    I'm going to try replacing the 600/.01 cap before volume 1, 600/.02 before volume 2, and the 600/.02 cap before the treble control and go from there as far as the noise issue. (See post 2.) Filter caps, a bias check, and a 3 prong power cable are also on the short list.

    Tangent topic: Does anyone have a schematic to a U1511 or U1561 amp? According to a few forum posts, the main (only?) difference between the 10xx and the 15xx was that the latter came from the factory with 6550s. Here's a link to a U1561 using the same layout, chassis, and transformers. It has a sticker where the chassis is stamped for the 1061. I think you know where I'm going with this... :bassist:

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    Those transformers make my 20 oz powerade look tiny!

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  2. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    So as it turns out the amp is actually quiet and functional (except for it's pull high boost on channel 2) when fired up at my home.

    Not ruling out anything yet but I may have been using a bad instrument cable at dude's place. The first guitar I plugged in made no sound. The second worked but still made noise I would have associated with the preamp caps or possible a bad cable. Maybe he wasn't feeding me a line when he swore his buddy played it for hours the other day trouble free.
     
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  3. jastacey

    jastacey

    Feb 8, 2009
    Houston,Tx
    I'd swap out the pre-amp tubes one by one, first .. those are nice sounding amps, when set-up right, recap the power supply, if it hasn't already been done and that will tighten it up some what, great amp for small club work
     
  4. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    The noise didn't sound like a tube issue that I've experienced (mirophonic or dying). I've got some good Telefunken 12AX7 I pulled from a Bogen MX30A I'll try in there though.

    I'll definitely recap the power supply. I want this thing to kick harder than it ever did when I'm done with it.

    It sounded pretty good and plenty loud through the 212 with the stock(?) '72 CTS AlNiCo speakers.
     
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  5. I had one of those that I rebuilt. It came with Brittish made Mullard preamp tubes in it! Score!

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    It sounded great. Don't forget to use a jumper cable between the inputs like a Marshall Plexi. That amp is basically a Japanese Plexi copy.

    One of the things I had to do to this amp to make it reliable and noise free was replace all the tube sockets. The ones that were in there were really kinda cheap.
     
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  6. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    Mine did too. Double score! Nice amp btw. :p

    No doubt. That was part of why I was interested in it. For $300 I feel like I did pretty good.

    Admittedly, the sockets on my amp are pretty crap. I guess that might make the list too.
     
  7. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    Foot in mouth here, turns out V1 & V2 were on their last leg. I just hadn't played it for a long enough time period for the problem to show up again. Supposedly the mystery tech tested all the tubes. Not sure about any of dude's story at this point. Either way, it's sounding a lot better.

    Edit: The midrange and top end are really quite nice and airy now. For fun I dimed everything but bass, jumped the channels, and plugged in a Rick 4003. Now we're getting somewhere! I was overdriving the normal channel and had a totally clean high boost on top of it with the bright channel. It sounds really effin' good. Reminds me of a Sound City 120 I once had tonewise.
     
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  8. funkytoe

    funkytoe In Memoriam

    Jan 17, 2008
    Northern California
    Congrats! Nice score.
     
  9. I just wanted to post a thank you for this thread as it prompted me to use one of the Mullard 12AX7's in my Mesa Walkabout and man did it ever transform that amp into tuby goodness. It's already a tuby sounding amp but that Mullard really changed it quite a bit.

    I had forgotten that I pulled those tubes out of my Univox before I sold it. Some audiophiles will pay over $100 per tube for those IEC made in Gr. Brittan Mullards.

    After hearing it in my WA I'd never consider getting rid of em. I'm keeping the second as a backup just in case!
     
  10. wmhill

    wmhill Inactive

    Aug 20, 2012
    upstate NY
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    my first bass amp was one of those (I got the matching 2x12 cab later) 1 scan0015.jpg
     
  11. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    Thanks!

    Nice! I've never heard a Walkabout in person but I've heard lots of good things. Hang onto those tubes! Mine were toast. The tube swap was night and day on the 1061.

    Cool, how'd it treat you? I swapped the speakers in the 2x12 the instant I got it because I knew I was going to turn the amp all the way up.
     
  12. wmhill

    wmhill Inactive

    Aug 20, 2012
    upstate NY
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    Never had a moments trouble, great sound and cool looking rig. I got rid of it after a few years for something louder, I hope to score another someday. Actually sounded much better with the matching 2x12 than the 4x12 bassman cab pictured ( those were pretty awful) Also sounded huge for guitar as well.
     
  13. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    Guys, has ANYONE got a 1501, 1511, or 1561 Univox schematic? I really want to see what their factory setup was with 6550's.

    Best I have is a gut shot of a 1561 from another forum... Thankfully they appear to be the same as the 1061 with the power tubes and a sticker on the back being the only difference.

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  14. You might have better luck over DIYaudio.com.
     
  15. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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  16. BucketOfFish

    BucketOfFish

    Mar 17, 2014
    The difference in heater current draw between a 6L6GC (0.9A) and a 6550 (1.6A) may be the deciding factor. If the power transformer is the same for both models then you might be good to go with re-biasing the new power tubes.
     
  17. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    The transformers and topology look to be identical other than the power tubes employed. You can even see where the U1561 sticker was slapped over the U1061 and serial number stamped into the chassis. This is also the case of the guitar amps (U1011 and U1511) that share this particular chassis and transformer setup.

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    Proof from inside a 1561. See the model number?

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  18. johnpbass

    johnpbass

    Feb 18, 2008
    Glen Mills, PA
    Very cool score christw! I love those old Univox amps. Funny thing was back in the day they sold those at a record store named Sam Goody - along with the good old Teisco Del Ray basses. Not sure if those stores were local to Philly or Philly and NYC.
     
  19. wmhill

    wmhill Inactive

    Aug 20, 2012
    upstate NY
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    I never saw them new, but there was a huge stack of old tube amp heads at the local music store.....priced at $1 per watt! I chose the Univox over the bassmans because it had an extra 10 watts. Consequently, it sounded much better than the bassmans. Now I wish I'd bought everything at that price!
     
  20. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
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    Thanks. We had a Sam Goody here until sometime into the '00's I think.

    Dang! I've only paid $1 per watt once for a tuber, a Fender PA100 that I should be recapping later today.