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Name that wood !

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by MAGUS®, Apr 13, 2005.


  1. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    Hi Luthier fellows.. i've just taken delivery of another 4 string plank, but i'd like to know, if poss, what the wood might be.

    I know very little about it -

    It an Ibanez Musician, thats for sure, possibly an MC888 model. But i'm guessing. Also been told from the serial number ( L830328 ) L is July = L being 7th month + 83 = 1983. The rest of the numbers are unknown as to what they signify. Body size/shape seems identical to the BEAN BASS, but believe that was the RB999 model and ususally they had a gloss paint finish.

    The wood looks gorgeous, but theres little or no info on this. Googling revealed nothing apart from the Gloss painted Bean bass, which has a different pup arrangement to mine.

    Heres some links to pics of mine...

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/bass/Ibez2.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/bass/Ibez1.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/bass/Ibez3.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/bass/Ibez6.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/bass/Ibez5.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/bass/Ibez4.jpg

    And heres a pic of a BEAN BASS somewheres in your fine country

    http://www.basspalace.com/dynamic/displaybass/4StringBass/3727
     
  2. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    That strange huh ?
     
  3. Mudfuzz

    Mudfuzz

    Apr 3, 2004
    WA...
    The neck is maple [with walnut pinstripes] and the wings look like walnut, but the picts need to be a bit brighter. The FB is most likely rosewood.
     
  4. Tdog

    Tdog

    May 18, 2004
    I'll agree on the maple, but the pinstripes look to be either padauk or bloodwood. I believe the fretboard is Padauk...the orange-rust color and open pores are a give-away....It is about the only photo that shows enough detail to make a judgement from. The wings look more like Cocobolo than walnut, but GEEZ!!! that would weigh a ton!...Walnut that old would be much lighter in coloration(Walnut is one of the few woods that lightens as it ages)....The wings do show a slightly orangish cast and a tight dense grain pattern.....I say Coco or another type of Rosewood for the wings.....Even the headstock veneer looks to be a rosewood of some type....I need better photos to make a definative judgement.....What say you?
     
  5. FBB Custom

    FBB Custom TalkBass Pro Commercial User

    Jan 26, 2002
    Maryland
    Owner: FBB Bass Works
    The pictures are dark and do not show enough detail of the body wood. There's a number of woods it might be, but the red tinge does indicate that it might be padauk. I seriously doubt that Ibanez would use solid cocobolo or any rosewood for the wings. Can you tell if it's laminated?

    The stringers in the neck are probably padauk as well. Padauk is relatively inexpensive and it is a wood Ibanez has come back to. It would be surprising if they used padauk as a fingerboard, but the open pores do suggest it is possible. Again, none of those pictures show enough detail & contrast to be conclusive.
     
  6. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    Sorry guys - i'm no David Bailey with a camera, but i shall endeavour to take some better pics - a lot of them have been resized to squash the file size a bit, but i will re-take them, and post back !

    Thanks for the info so far - dont desert me ! I'll back
    ( in best Mayor of Cal. voice )
     
  7. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    Okey dokey - retaken and all files are original size but bear in mind Photobucket auto resizes to 250k but your viewing proggy should be able to zoom in a few clicks . You may have to "open with " ...windows fax & picture viewer to get a zoom icon or whatever you guys use

    Theres duplicates of a few of them, as i wasnt sure whether i took a good enough shot for your purposes.

    See what you think - thx people.

    EDIT - i notice that deep reddish brown is very similar to an old 80's Aria Pro 2 fretless i had. Apparently that was a Paduak stain rather than Paduak itself

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0010.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0009.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0008.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0007.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0006.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0005.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0004.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0003.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0002.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/DSCF0001.jpg
     
  8. Basschair

    Basschair .............. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    Stockton, Ca
    "Padauk!" says the ignoramous...(me)

    "Paduak!" says the ignoramous...(alternative spelling)
     
  9. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    This may be a bit useful - its amazingly light.
    3.5kg - 7.7 Lbs. I guess the minimal headstock, thin neck and small body contribute.

    Its like Balsawood compared to my 70's Ibanez Jazz
     
  10. Tdog

    Tdog

    May 18, 2004
    Much better photos! I'm stickin' to Padauk on the fingerboard. and Maple on the neck with Padauk or possibly Mahogany accent stripes......The old pics disguised the detail in the wood....Now, given a good look at the grain detail and lightweight of the bass, I'm thinkin' possibly a dyed Ash, but I'm not totally sold on it. I don't have any Ash around the shop and I haven't worked with it for a long time, so I'm only guessing on this one!....The wood kinda looks like the body of an old '50s Strat.
     
  11. Mark Chandler

    Mark Chandler

    Aug 25, 2004
    Houston TX
    looks like maple, mahogany, and a rosewood board to me :/
     
  12. Benavente

    Benavente

    Aug 14, 2002
    Oregon
    I'll betthe body's Ash. The neck may have been taped off and medium brown toner applied....
     
  13. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    Thanks for your input people !

    I take it Ash is a light kinda wood ?
     
  14. Benavente

    Benavente

    Aug 14, 2002
    Oregon
    Swamp Ash is very light...
     
  15. FBB Custom

    FBB Custom TalkBass Pro Commercial User

    Jan 26, 2002
    Maryland
    Owner: FBB Bass Works
    I'm with Chris at this point. The grain of the body wings doesn't look like padauk very much any more. I'm thinking it's stained. Probably lightweight ash. You might be able to verify that it is stained by hunting down an exposed piece of wood - maybe in the pickup cavities or in the electronics cavity.
     
  16. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    Good point FBB - i was dithering whether to kick out the neck PUP for an MM ( maybe ) ..and that would of course expose the wood beneath.

    Right now though i could take the cavity cover off and see if the wood beneath has been left unstained, and get a nice close up - see what you woodsmen think.

    I spose theres like a zillion types of Ash ?
     
  17. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    Dammit - rear cavity is completely shielded. :spit:

    Took neck pup out and it appears that its lacquered inside - so i dont know whether this going to hinder anything, as its obviously tinted the wood a tad - but i guess you guys have enough experience to maybe take that into consideration.

    Close ups are not easy are they ? Not sure they're good enough

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/pupcav4.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/pupcav3.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/pupcav2.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/slapper/pupcav1.jpg
     
  18. FBB Custom

    FBB Custom TalkBass Pro Commercial User

    Jan 26, 2002
    Maryland
    Owner: FBB Bass Works
    It's pretty clear that the body wings are tinted from this latest batch of photos. It's probably ash, but red oak is a possibility.

    There are a handful of different species of ash (and oak).
     
  19. MAGUS®

    MAGUS®

    Dec 23, 2004
    UK
    Thanks Pal - i'm going with Ash, mainly because it seems more likely as the Japanese manufacturers seemed to like this wood in the 80's
    I'm pretty sure that my ex Aria Pro 2, which was near identical in color to the stained body of the Musician, was an Ash body - both are 80's built - and the Aria was even called "paduak" in the brochures of the time, but stained over Ash. It even had that maple centre piece
     
  20. Benavente

    Benavente

    Aug 14, 2002
    Oregon
    Yup, itsa Ash. I had an import come thru the shop some time ago with the same mild grain pattern....