NBD: 198x Fender JV P-J Bass

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by infiniteposse, Jan 13, 2015.


  1. infiniteposse

    infiniteposse

    Feb 7, 2008
    Hi all-

    While checking out my local pawn shop, I saw a bass that piqued my interest. I played it, loved the neck and sound and decided to take it home. It's not much of a looker, but I think it could be an amazing player.

    It's a Early 80's Fender JV P-J Bass. It's been messed with quite a bit over the years - Badass II bridge, active EMG pickups and really fugly spray-paint refin. I don't care much about the aesthetic issues though, I just want it to play and sound good.

    I just took a little q-tip of acetone to the crappy paint job and it looks like there's an original grey finish underneath. Does that sound right? Even if it's not, I may just strip it down and repaint it so that it looks better.

    The pickups were only partially working at the pawn shop, so I got a little knocked off the price. After getting home I checked out the rats nest wiring and now things don't work at all. I've just pulled the pickups and it looks like this is what I've got:

    Bridge - EMG Jazz bass pickup - LJV EAO IF
    Neck - EMG Precision pickup - EAO (treble bar) and IF (bass bar)

    They look like an older style (old font) as opposed to the modern font. I'm not sure if this is good or bad. The other odd thing is that there's no preamp that I can see in the cavity. Based on the quality of the wiring, maybe someone just jerry-rigged it. Any thoughts on how best to decode the pickups wiring and get things back in working order?

    Any feedback on the paint color and the pickup wiring would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

    Lee

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  2. Tad

    Tad Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Boise, Idaho
    I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but there was never any such thing as a JV P-J.

    http://www.squierguitars.com/about/

    Scroll down a little and there is a a section about JV's.

    More info can be found here.

    http://www.21frets.com/squier_jv/index.htm

    As you said, if it is a JV, it has been messed with quite a bit, which is a crying shame.

    The neck plate is from a JV.

    I hope it is a good player for you.
     
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  3. infiniteposse

    infiniteposse

    Feb 7, 2008
    Thanks Tad. I appreciate the feedback.

    The headstock finish and decal look completely original, so by all appearances it's an actual MIJ P-J neck. Any idea what it would be if the neckplate is just incorrect? The body routes seem to be clean, so it doesn't look like a JV P-bass with a cut out jazz bass pickup route.

    The one bass that I see only that seems to be a perfect match is the Fender “Jazz bass special.” The color of the logo (a sort of antigua white) is identical and the pics I see of the pot and switch placement are all identical. Even the control plate shape is identical. Perhaps Fender made a run with the same spec but a different name, briefly?

    Edited to add: Here's a thread with the same exact bass: http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=57373

    I pulled the neck and there's no stamp or anything to give further clarification on the make or model.

    I'm $200 into the bass and this shop actually has a return policy, so I could bring it back if I want. The thing is, the thing rings like a bell. The neck and body are both light and also super resonant. I'm still trying to get the electronics sorted out, but as an acoustic instrument it's quite nice.

    Any more feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

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  4. Its defiantly a JV PJ Bass, these were made in 1984 prior to being called a Jazz Bass Special in 1985. I had a white one last year and I sold it for $600.
     
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  5. Tad

    Tad Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Boise, Idaho
    I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

    I know there was not a Squier JV P-J, but I guess there could have been a Fender JV P-J if they also used JV serial numbers on the Fenders.

    Call Fender and give them the serial number and ask them.
     
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  6. infiniteposse

    infiniteposse

    Feb 7, 2008
    I just found some cool information. It appears that the plate is iffy, but the bass itself now makes sense. It's a Fender MIJ PJ-555 made in 1985. I got the idea to go look through some MIJ catalogs and there it was.
    If this is the case, the JV plate is likely not original since JV's predate 1985, but who knows.

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  7. infiniteposse

    infiniteposse

    Feb 7, 2008
    A-Step-Towards - Do you have a source I could look up re: 1984 JV basses? Maybe some pics of your old one to check out? This doesn't seem to be a very well documented subject.

    Thanks!
     
  8. Tad

    Tad Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Boise, Idaho
    From what you said, I bet it looked like this new.

     
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  9. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Sep 7, 2006
    Blimp City USA
    Interesting. I don't think the JV on the plate has anything to do with original JV Fender/ Squier. Original JV were only made until 84' if I'm not mistaken. They had only a P and Jazz models.

    It could also just be a plate off JV bass?
     

  10. Its a 1984, all "jazz bass specials" made in 1984 were called PJ Bass and had a JV serial neck plate. In 1985 they changed the name to Jazz Bass Special and the neck plate was just blank and the serial number was added to the headstock as E5****. I have had many Jazz Bass Specials and I have had 2 PJ basses, one was white and it had the 3 way toggle switch just like a Jazz Special, one was red and it had no toggle switch, just 3 knobs. The Jazz Special looking PJ bass is only a 1984 model, by 1985 they were called the Jazz Special. I dont have photos of mine, I sell my stuff and delete all the stuff , but here is a post I wrote on page 20 and 1 photo showing a JV PJ without a switch which I would guess was early 1984, the late 1984 would be with the switch as they transition to a Jazz Special in 1985. I have been deeply into these basses for years being a huge GNR fan. The plate is original, your bass is a PJ bass JV serial Number and its a 1984 not 1985.


    see my post on page 20

    http://www.talkbass.com/threads/fender-jazz-bass-special-circa-1984-87.716045/page-20
     
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  11. infiniteposse

    infiniteposse

    Feb 7, 2008
    Thanks so much A-Step-Towards! Appreciated.
     
  12. Tad

    Tad Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Boise, Idaho
    Very informative post, A Step.
     
  13. jp8848

    jp8848

    Mar 15, 2012
    Hendersonville, NC
    Now not knowing much about these JV basses, I do presume they are the Squier version and were made in the 80's. Im looking at a 1982 JV Squier right now that is a 57 reissue. Has some very minor issues on the headstock but its a nice looking bass! That being said, it the JV line a good line of squier basses or the cheapy type?
     
  14. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Now where I have I seen that one on the right before? ;) (In gold, if I recall.)
     
  15. Old post I never replied to but JV was not just a squier thing , there were Japan made fenders with jv serials and a fender logo no squier anywhere on it. My friend also has a 1982 candy apple red jv fender jazz bass and the logo is fender and original. I just bought one of these pj jv basses in white from the original owner and it has all paperwork and hang tags.
     
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