NBD: Am Pro P

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by FirewalZ, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    I start with stating my point of reference P bass is a maple neck Am Special with Fender Original 62 pick ups. Wanting an alternate P bass so i can more easily switch between flats, rounds, etc, I ordered a new American Professional, sunburst/rosewood, directly from Fender. My idea was to have two P basses on different ends of the tonal spectrum, and that's pretty much exactly what I got.
    Fit, finish, initial impression
    The finish was as perfect as i could tell, joints, screws, HW, etc was all tight. The fingerboard is a nice dark rosewood a hint of reddish black stripping. The body appears to be one piece, or if it is two, i certainly cannot see a visible glue joint no matter how hard I look. Weight wise, it's about 8.5-ish pounds....lighter than a 70's boat anchor Jazz, but heavier than a MIJ Basswood Fender. I wouldn't want it to be any heavier, but it certainly isn't too heavy. On a side note, its nearly perfectly balanced.

    Bridge-Tunners
    Yes, the bridge is nicer than the typical Fender bent plate. It does take some getting used to stringing through the body. Also when stringing through the bridge, it wants to lock the ball in place, so you need to be careful not to twist the string. All in all a nice bridge, just different that the old ones, and you need to change how you put strings on.
    The same can be said of the tuners, an improvement over the old larger post ones, again just different. I had to rethink how long i cut the strings, you can only get about two wraps around the small tapered post, so they need to be much shorter than I was used to. Great tuners, light, stays in tune and the taper really does give you a better break angle with less wraps.

    V-Mod Pickups
    Im still on the fence about these, they are nearly the opposite of the Original 62's, being smoother, tighter low and low mids and a bit scooped upper mids. The Original 62's in contrast are very upper/mid forward and super ganky....nearly too much so with bright rounds, but great for that sound. The thing with the v-mod is that the E string is the same volume as the other strings, this is not the case with most P bass's, it doesnt bloom really huge if you come down on it hard....even when unplugged, unlike my other P. Also the E and A(less so) are a bit softer sounding than the D and G. At first I did not like this and was thinking i would swap the pickups out, however I found it really works in a live setting. You can get big/full notes on the E and A, while having the D and G cut better while not being thin sounding. Overall the pickups are very clear, smooth and tight/dry sounding, you can hear every note clearly across the fretboard. I like them just fine, but may experiment with something else, just because there are so many great P pickups out there.

    Neck
    Great neck feel, feels bound, with smooth edges. The profile is a bit thicker and rounded front to back than the Am Special, which is flatter. I find it really comfortable, as your hand and fingers are not scrunched up too much, nor is the neck to big or wide, it seems just right. My favorite neck feel at the moment, I can go all night and am less cramped up.

    Overall
    Im very happy with the purchase, nothing was missed quality wise, the hard case with TSA locks is very nice and much better quality than the ones in the past. The bass plays and sounds great, its tone is smoother, tighter and less ganky than my other P bass, this is true even comparing them side by side unplugged. So between these two, I can really cover a lot of different situations. When accompanying an acoustic or when there is nothing else in the low end, say piano and lighter guitars, the AM Pro really fits well, is crystal clear and fills the space nicely.
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  2. Nice review. Congrats!
     
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  3. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    I actually waited a few week and several gigs before I did this review, and im glad i did, i like it more and more, even the v-mods:) Ive played it in small acoustic settings, and with a full classic rock band at a few outdoor and indoor shows. I really do love this bass, with my GK MB212-ii and broken in Sunbeams, the tone is thick and meaty in the low mids with just enough bite in the highs. Every note is clear and come through, the upper register notes are a bit bigger sounding than my other P.
     
  4. bobyoung53

    bobyoung53 Supporting Member

    If you decide you want to try another pickup try the vintage 63 (or whatever they're called), best P pickup I've ever tried. BIG sound. I have an American vintage hot rod P bass (P/J) and the P pickup is killer.
     
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  5. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Yea, I had a gig last night and on stage the v-mods sounded great, thick, punchy and very clear. Right out of the box with the factory set up, the E string was a bit to soft...and I didnt think the stock strings were a good fit or feel. After messing with pickup adjustments and trying a few different string sets, it really came to life and sounds great.
     
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  6. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Gold Supporting Member

    glad you like the ax, and that it serves your purpose! congratulations on your new instrument! :thumbsup:
     
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  7. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    Nice bass. Congrats.
     
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  8. JOME77

    JOME77 Living in the Moment Supporting Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    Georgia
    Excellent review! Very thorough.
    I'm also very impressed with the Fender American Pro basses. I love the sound of the new V-Mod pickups. The warmer/smoother sound is much more pleasing to my ears and still cuts through the mix nicely and the necks are easily the best feeling that I've played on a Fender.
    As you state, the workmanship is outstanding on the Pro basses. As good as any that I've owned (which includes quite a few boutique basses). I stopped in our local GC this weekend and they had an American Pro P-Bass and Jazz and I played them both for a while and I totally fell in love with the Jazz 4. So much so that I bought it (I already have a 50's RW P-Bass and an Elite P-Bass). The Pro Jazz was by far the best playing and sounding Jazz that I've ever played. It totally spoke to me.

    Congrats on your new P-Bass! Very classy looking bass!:)
     
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  9. BassmanM

    BassmanM

    Feb 17, 2011
    Hamburg, Germany
    Congrats on your new bass! :thumbsup:

    And now for some tort.... ;)
     
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  10. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    I had considered a Jazz for a moment, but I already have two good ones and really was wanting a second P. Ive heard folks like the Jazz v-mods better than the P, I was concerned about the v-mods initially but have grown to really appreciate what they do in a live setting.
     
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  11. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Yea, im thinking Black as well...for the 70's look.
     
  12. Ghastly

    Ghastly

    Oct 18, 2015
    Mill Valley
    Congrats on your new p bass. Nice amp too. I play through a GK MB 212 as well. :thumbsup: May I suggest an anodized gold pg?
     
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  13. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Gold anodized...hmmm...any examples of how that would look on a newer Sunburst/rosewood?
    Yep, I really like the MB212....it can be a bit dark and boxy in certain rooms, more so when its turned down too low. But the thing is a beast of a combo for sure, lightweight and huge sounding...ive gigged with it regularly for about 4 years and its been spot on the whole time.
     
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  14. Ghastly

    Ghastly

    Oct 18, 2015
    Mill Valley
    Maybe something like this... without the covers. I think the color associations look great.
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  15. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Looks great...the newer sunbursts look a bit darker...less "yellow" in the center. But black or gold would look good.
     
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  16. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Just thought id update....
    I still really love the clear and smooth tone, the v-mods have proven themselves to me in a variety of live settings. They are fairly flexible and interact/respond really well with the tone knob. The neck feel has become my new favorite, super comfortable for all nighters.
    I havent pampered or sheltered this bass at all....I have a pretty busy summer schedule and almost immediately started gigging with it, outdoors in the heat and sweat, from loud rock shows to low key acoustic and rehearsals. I do keep it clean, wiped down, etc, but it does have a couple of small dings already:) This is definitely fulfilling its purpose as a workhorse bass.

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  17. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Still love this bass...I’m preferring it more and more, I’ve had it in the studio, a lot of live shows across several genres, sounds and plays great every time. I’ve settled on DR Sunbeams...they seem the best match so far.
     
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  18. PotsdamBass8

    PotsdamBass8 Supporting Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    Long Island, NY
    I just picked one of these up a few weeks ago and your review matches my feelings as well. I’m also using sunbeams on it.
    I’m glad to hear you’re liking the Vmods. I keep on going back and forth on them if I want to swap, but I think I’ll wait until I actually play it with a group before deciding. I tend to EQ with the highs down and the low mids bumped anyways, so this will probably fit perfectly for me, but I am also used to hearing a little more of the high mids poking through when I play at home.
     
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  19. FirewalZ

    FirewalZ

    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    Yes, the vmods are initially different than your used to...not super ganky, etc. This may not be a good first impression for many. However, they really work well not live and in the studio.
     
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  20. Owl in the Dark

    Owl in the Dark

    Mar 24, 2012
    I got a Professional Precision Bass V new in 2018 from just listening to demos. I really wanted a fiver with a wider and rounder neck, and I thought the low B sounded better on the Pro line than the previous Standard. I did read misgivings on the V-Mod and figured I'd take a chance and could replace them if I wanted. Once I stopped fighting with them to sound like a typical P (and I was also basically new to split-coils, so it was a double whammy adjustment for me), and I listened to them in a mix, especially live in my congregation, I grew to love them. It sounds to me like the V-Mods are basically trying to reproduce the slightly looser tones that instruments got out of vintage amps on the low end, where harmonics were emphasized more. The Alnico II response seems to reproduce this even in modern solid state amps and PAs. And it does help balance the sound. I often felt like the higher strings on a P sounded choked in comparison to the E and A. Now the volumes are more balanced. And as has been stated, the pickup has just about the best interaction with the passive tone control I've ever heard, with rich mids busting through even at the most tone roll-off. This was crucial to me as I was craving a great passive system after having a main ax with only active tone controls and nothing in passive mode.

    The sustain is phenomenal, and I love the dynamics. The build of the neck is gorgeous. The integration of the rosewood fretboard with the maple neck is genuinely seamless, and the frets feel fantastic. I don't particularly notice a huge difference with the narrow tall profile frets, but they sound good to me. And the high mass bridge is definitely a welcome enhancement, which along with the graphite reinforcement rods help to add some spank to the base Precision tone—spank that can easily be subdued to the more typical mellow moan with playing style and use of the tone control. Also, for some reason it has the best muted sound I've ever heard from an instrument, with both pick and fingerstyle. It's definitely my number one, and I expect that to remain for a long time.

    Soon after I got a deal on a barely used Ampeg BA210 v2 and that really helped round out my sound even more. The combo means I'm always heard, always supportive, and always able to add the rhythmic shove to the mix I need to keep a band's time and feel strong and fun for the audience. It's a keeper. The only thing I did was add a pearloid blue pickguard. IMG_20190526_090400~3.jpg
     
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