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NBD - Fullerton AVRI P Bass - Candy Apple Red over Lake Placid Blue

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by rkwells101, Feb 19, 2021.


  1. rkwells101

    rkwells101

    Feb 19, 2021
    Finally the finish and the body. There are no holes that I can see for the bridge and ash tray covers. If the red is a refinish they could have been plugged. Does the fact that the red is sprayed in all the cavities mean anything? Stay with me on the logic here: the serial number says Fender custom shop. I read that often Fender painted over bodies when someone wanted a custom color. Could it be that this was an original gold over blue body that was painted over when a custom order came in. Could this be a very early custom shop Corona job. FDC16B82-6AB0-483E-8B0D-CFCF8C234EFD.jpeg DA3ACE6D-F4D2-4A08-A26F-5F3589736FCB.jpeg F053A38D-B2DB-4FDD-8DD1-627FB399964D.jpeg C8019488-C4E6-4416-BDB5-3B0921F812C9.jpeg
     

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  2. Johnny Alien

    Johnny Alien Supporting Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Harrisburg, PA, USA
    Those VO numbers sometimes show as a custom shop. There was no custom shop at that time. The router bump is not in the neck pocket, its on the side of the neck pocket. This one actually gives the best view of where it would be.

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    It's hard to tell but I don't think there is a router bump which would suggest the whole thing is Corona built. I still think that's a 6 and with this being Corona made that would make sense. It would be a Fullerton neck if it was dated 85 and the logo placement is definitely Corona. The finish is tough for me. The way it was wearing doesn't look too nitro like but there's nothing specific that would show it as a refinish that I can see.
     
  3. liverbird

    liverbird

    Mar 22, 2003
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  4. Johnny Alien

    Johnny Alien Supporting Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Harrisburg, PA, USA
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  5. PWRL

    PWRL

    Sep 15, 2006
    I think it's an 88. My 89 has a V03 serial number. Plus, the neck date looks like "88" to me.
     
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  6. stonehenge

    stonehenge Supporting Member

    Apr 8, 2011
    Duvall WA
    My AVRI 57 has a 1988 neck stamp, it’s black over surf green, doesn’t look to be a refin.
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  7. rkwells101

    rkwells101

    Feb 19, 2021
    I can see where the 5 could look like a 6 or a 8. I looked for exemplars on reverb and ebay. As the Stonehenge said his has a stamp as did the two others I found (only found two both currently on reverb) the blue one is a triple color like mine. Mine has hand written date and name stamps on the body and neck. I could not find any 1986 or 1987 examples that were not MIJ.

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  8. rkwells101

    rkwells101

    Feb 19, 2021
    Sorry about the pics try these as thumb nails E546EC05-F335-4074-B32A-6E3EAF5CF77E.png 78A6C3FE-603C-4369-B0EC-0CA120F640A2.png 01433E11-DF11-4866-AD16-1B3C8040DADC.png
     
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  9. Whale

    Whale

    Apr 12, 2008
    Portland, OR
    Update from my bassist friend, Dickie, in San Diego with an 1986 AVRI. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to supply me with pics (he was at the airport on his way to Memphis for a recording job when he received my message), but did share the following info:

    • His serial number starts with V0224xx.
    • Except for the pots and two re-frets, the bass is 100% original and he is the sole owner
    • His finish is Fiesta Red over what appears to be Olympic White. It is fitted with a ten-hole gold pickguard.
    • The serial number of the neck heal is clearly written as 10-01-86. His neck has a skunk stripe.
    • Within the neck pocket his body build date is 09-03 (no year is given). The date is written with a Sharpie or a felt-tip pen. It is not a stamp and shows no employee names. Also, he says there are a total of 6 holes (4 for the neck screws and two others).
    • His pots were changed out years ago due to excessive use, so no date codes available there.
    • He does have the Fullerton router-hump on the lower cutaway. His cutaway is not smooth like the Corona models.
    • Pickups have the raised A string poles.
    • No holes drilled for ash tray covers, but there are holes for a pickup cover.
    • Thumb rest is placed above the strings.
    • Logo on the headstock simply says "Fender Precision Bass". The Fender logo is white outlined in black.
    • There is a "hootenanny" strap button on the back of the headstock.
    • The case is tweed. Interestingly, it is not an exact match to my 1983 AVRI tweed case. There are a few small differences that, in the end, make no difference since both cases are equally protective in every respect.
    • Dickie's original receipt shows that he bought his bass in mid December of 1986. It was, as he says, the best and longest lasting Christmas present he has ever received.

    I shared why I was asking for the info. He replied that the early AVRI instruments are amazing. He was told by a Fender rep that the guys/girls who became the Custom Shop initially focused on and honed their skills on the four AVRI models (Strat, Tele, J Bass, & P Bass) from 82 through 88. He will never ever sell his bass.
     
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  10. Whale

    Whale

    Apr 12, 2008
    Portland, OR
    After I posted my entry above I ran a Google search for a 1986 AVRI P-Bass and found this...

    1986 Fender American Vintage '57 Precision Bass Fiesta Red Gold Guard w/ Case

    The bass in the ad has all of the features I just described plus it is the same color and shows pics! I cannot tell if there is a router hump on the body. Maybe yes, maybe no. The only difference I can see for certain is that the thumb rest is in the lower location as opposed to the upper location on my friend's bass. Strange, but then, that's Fender for you.
     
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  11. Router hump is a bit smaller.
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  12. Whale

    Whale

    Apr 12, 2008
    Portland, OR
    Nice catch on the pic FenderOli. I didn't look closely enough.

    Here are links to the suggested price sheets from Fender for both 1986 and 1988. The AVRI basses back then were called "US Vintage" models. I believe they changed the name to AVRI in 1998. The name AVRI stuck, however, and pretty much everyone now refers to the older US Vintage instruments as AVRIs.

    What's most remarkable in the pricing sheets is that the US Vintage/AVRI basses cost nearly twice as much as the Standard or Contemporary model basses.

    https://guitar-compare.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/1986-June-2.pdf

    https://guitar-compare.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/1988-January-1.pdf
     
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  13. Sands

    Sands Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 2016
    Here are a couple of my neck. I am not sure of the significance or meaning of the F or little circle stamp. 3CABC5E2-75D7-45C6-B9B4-B46D268E434A.jpeg 4C9B409C-D4CB-4B5E-9E9E-2D4D18782077.jpeg
     
  14. liverbird

    liverbird

    Mar 22, 2003
    @rkwells101 A Fullerton neck usually also has the additional hole on the neck heel, like on this 1983 '62 RI Jazz: (Note its absence on both your neck and the 1988 neck you posted. Same goes for the early Corona 1986 linked by Whale which also has a handwritten date.)

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  15. Johnny Alien

    Johnny Alien Supporting Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Harrisburg, PA, USA
    I know that some Corona necks had stamped dates on the neck. I have also seen Fullerton models (usually from 1983) that have stamped dates. It happens with Fender. The majority of the early Corona and Fullerton reissues had hand written dates like yours. The reasons it not likely to be 1985 is, 1. During the years when they were switching factories very few USA models were built or assembled. I have never seen a bass dated 1985. The only model I have seen dated those years were strats and even then there weren't many and they were all Fullerton parts. As yours appears to have no Fullerton parts it would be impossible for it to be built in 1985 before the Corona factory was up and running. 2. The V03 serial numbers that I have seen have all been late 80's into the early 90s.

    What you have is a really nice 1988 early Corona model based on the parts used and serial number. Great basses that is still over 30 years old. If it were me I would certainly hit the guy up for a partial refund even if you are happy as he did misrepresent it pretty bad. I think 2k would be high for a Fullerton with swapped parts and a missing case but it's very overpriced for a Corona model. Either way enjoy the bass they are great!
     
  16. rkwells101

    rkwells101

    Feb 19, 2021
     
  17. Yes. All in all, it looks to me as others mentionend, a real nice 1988 early Corona model in a a Custum Color.
    I believe the body contours changed in 1988/1989, the hump is always a bit smaller since the Coronas started in 1986.
    Fullerton Corona Contours
    Coronas had always black Pickup bobbins, Fullertons were grey.
    The highest Fullerton serial I saw was V016XXX.
     
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  18. stonehenge

    stonehenge Supporting Member

    Apr 8, 2011
    Duvall WA
    This thread got me curious so I removed my neck and took some photos, serial starts with V03. C6392939-F66E-4A77-A36F-5BB8EB752547.jpeg 5E52B1BA-9F79-414E-AD83-1409001496B4.jpeg 017CCC67-4F4E-43AC-9127-15CB6D593EDE.jpeg
     
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  19. rkwells101

    rkwells101

    Feb 19, 2021
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    FenderOli,
    I looked at the contour photos you provided. What does this look like? I was not sure what you meant by 50/50
     

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  20. Just 50% to 50%.
    This body looks right for being from 88. I added two new pictures in my album. The contours changed imo ~ 1988/89.
    Maybe we should start an „Early Corona Thread“.
     
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