NBD: Medium scale "Famous-P" (double reverse P)

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by mikewalker, May 1, 2019.

  1. mikewalker


    Jul 30, 2017
    Canada, Eh!
    Well, this has been about a year in the making, it has been taking forever to get the final touches on (and this bass also got railroaded into being a pickup testbed for a few months).

    It is made up of a maple 'paddle' neck from Eden in California, a custom poplar body from a luthier just south of Chicago, EMG pups from California, Hipshot machines and Sadowsky strings from NY, and all the other various bits from Allparts in Texas.


    I cut the headstock on a bandsaw, sanded extra contours into the body, and then had it painted in sparkle-flake blue lacquer by local 'surfboard painting legend' Ken Crombie. The headstock shape is based on my favorite 1969 Framus bass (had to modify the design considerably to use modern tuners and get more or less 'straight string pull'!). Logo is styled after Framus too :)

    The EMGs on this bass were originally chosen because I was planning to use this bass for Tapewounds (no string ground!) - but after having tried the Sadowsky Blue Label Flats on it, (back when this was being pressed into service as a humbucking jazz bass pickup testbed) there was no way it wasn't going to keep wearing flats forever ( this bass sounds AMAZING with flats! )

    My quick-change pickup test jig shown below: ten different J-humbuckers were methodically tested for noise rejection, but the video is still being edited (will be posted on youtube one of these days...)
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    PS: The only thing on this bass that didn't come from USA is this little talisman:
    It's a 900-year-old medieval-European silver dinar - one of the smallest coins in the world! :)
    Last edited: May 1, 2019
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  2. cholyoke

    cholyoke Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2016
    Rubber City
    Nice DRP! Good color, too. What kind of bridge is that?
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  3. mikewalker


    Jul 30, 2017
    Canada, Eh!
    Allparts: BB-3533 Modern Quick Release 4-string Bass Bridge

    I buy two of them, then take the saddles off one and use it as tailpiece... That way the bass can use either medium scale strings or long scale strings :)

    And either way it's Quick Release: non-destructively change string sets in three minutes!!! :thumbsup:
    Last edited: May 1, 2019
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  4. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Supporting Member

    incredible! nice work --- cool features, too. you've got my vote on looks/style and innovation! congratulations on your new instrument! :thumbsup:
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  5. PWRL


    Sep 15, 2006
    That's a very clever adaptation.
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  6. stuntbass77


    Nov 6, 2007
    7B6C4978-410E-48DB-8F5A-89FFC210ACD8.png 7B6C4978-410E-48DB-8F5A-89FFC210ACD8.png 079DFCE7-46E0-474D-9531-8AE3B1398CA7.png CD4C9209-BFB6-4490-9846-BA233D6DF90B.png BC717D1D-FCDC-400B-9C52-BE889B93A6BF.png I’m just made of questions I have a build that will be sporting a short scale Edan neck. What is you opinion on the quality as far as the neck being level ( good action/setup )? I’m going undecided on a string button on tree but like the looks on the neck you have ( I too am shaping my headstock, will be like a tele ). I hate when string trees bend the strings out of alignment, not sure if this happens do to misalignment when installing or the brand of string tree. Yours looks properly lined up, good job. Where did you get the string tree ? How well did the tuners fit. I know I will have to use some aluminum foil tape to build up the sides as I believe the Edan necks are 18mm. I can wait to finish my build and really hoping I don’t have to level the frets to get decent action, I like medium myself. I am going with emg pickups as well, gonna be ugly but hope the short scale helps with my nerve pain. Congrats on the build, looks great !
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  7. Templar

    Templar Supporting Member

    Awesome build! :thumbsup:
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  8. Templar

    Templar Supporting Member

    Big fan of double-reverse P pickups.

    The toggle is 3-way pup selector?

    Knobs are vol/treble/bass (BTC)?....or....vol/vol/tone?....or....vol/pan/tone?....or?...

    Anyway, great concept and execution. Paint job is outstanding! :thumbsup:
  9. mikewalker


    Jul 30, 2017
    Canada, Eh!
    The eden neck is VERY good quality, the wood and the (ultra-thin-matte-plastic) finish are excellent.
    The fret ends on both my eden necks (I have a medium-scale "Famous-J" project nearly done as well) were quite sharp, and required several minutes of work to round them. The other neck was a lot worse, I got cuts just from handling it! It seems the fretwire is stainless steel as smoothing that one was a lot of work. At any rate, once the edges were done the frets barely needed leveling , and they were all well seated. The neck feels great, and the truss rod works perfectly. Both these necks are fairly chunky profiles, fatter than a modern P or J.

    String tree was from ALLPARTS, like all of the other miscellaneous hardware. Tuners fit perfectly. This was the paddle headstock, and drilling the holes was an adventure ( I don't have a drill press!) . No issues with the thickness, though! The neck is VERY hard maple, some of the hardest rock maple I have ever worked on...
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  10. mikewalker


    Jul 30, 2017
    Canada, Eh!
    Toggle is the EMG solderless switch ( very expensive!). When I first hooked it up there was no pup mixing ( turning one down would ground out the signal) but I eventually found the "W pair" docs for it and now it works perfectly in the alternate wiring arrangement.

    Knobs are neck, bridge, passive tone... (basic VVT)
    Last edited: May 3, 2019
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  11. pjbassist


    Mar 13, 2014
    Fort Wayne, IN
    <<<<-----H U G E fan of Double Ps...I have 2! Great build, thanks for sharing!!
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  12. stuntbass77


    Nov 6, 2007
    I see you drilled the holes yourself ( they had an option to have the holes drilled and headstock roughly shaped, it is roughly shaped for sure but I needed to do some shaping myself anyway ). You were right to drill the holes yourself as they come in at about 18mm and that’s big ! My neck seems to have stainless steel frets as well, hopefully I can live with the action and not have to level but bet I will. I also feel it is made of what seems to be very good wood, for the the price that’s a bit unexpected but good. This is my project for dipping my feet into the short scale world ( probably should have gone with a medium as you did ), gonna have to string it up with some high tension heavy gauge strings to try and get the long scale feel. Thanks for the response, again great job and headstock shape is a good looker
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  13. mikewalker


    Jul 30, 2017
    Canada, Eh!
    PS: here is the 1969 Framus that was the inspiration for the Famous-P headstock (and logo) :)
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  14. Cool build.

    The headstock reminds me of an old car tail fin.
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