Bought it as a '63 and the pot dates are right (40th week of '63), but the neck SN# dates it from '64-65 L41XXX. There's not enough left of the stamp on the neck to guess. Machines are reverse. Now to find a proper white pickguard with the tugbar holes and an early 60s headstock decal. The refin is quite nice even up close, very pro. Among the lightest vintage Ps I've played, but I need to locate my scale to say for sure; guessing 8.5 to 9 pounds. Either way she's a peach to play and easy on the eyes! Ain't the TB classifieds grand? Thanks to TBer mbw82 and $2200; going to use this for feedback as the original ad is gone.