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Neck pocket creaks?

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by all_sixes, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. all_sixes


    Mar 15, 2013
    Hey all, I just had a small question about my brand new Classic Stingray 5.

    I was jamming through "Addicted to that Rush" by Mr. Big, and there is a neck bend at the end of the song. When I went to bend the neck, I hear some nasty-sounding creaks in the pocket. The Stingray seems to have a really solid neck pocket, with 6 bolts anchoring the neck. I also noticed that the truss rod takes some serious pulls to adjust, if that may have anything to do with it.

    Are these creaks simply a result of the neck pocket being extremely tight? Or, could it be that there are some unseen problems with the neck?
  2. tabdog


    Feb 9, 2011
    If it's brand new and it bothers you, I'd send it back.
    It really doesn't sound serious though,

  3. all_sixes


    Mar 15, 2013
    Well the problem is that I'm not sure if I could send it back. I got it from Guitar Center on clearance, so I am not sure if they would replace it with a new one or not. I will probably ask them, and possibly just take it to local luthier to check it out just in case.
  4. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    Have you taken off the neck to have a look if all is well?
  5. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY Supporting Member

    If the pocket is so tight that you would have to exert force to put the heel in it then yes, it can creak. Just the two parts haven't conformed to each other yet added to the fact that there is still more moisture in the wood than there will be in years to come. Sticky moisture: sap. Just tighten the neck bolts and play on. If it happens a lot, take the neck off and rub a bar paraffin all over the heel as a lubricant between the parts. Carry on.
  6. all_sixes


    Mar 15, 2013
    No I haven't. Mostly because the idea of taking it off made me feel the slightest bit of discomfort. I'm sure it would be fine though, it is just screws and wood :/

    I'll take a look at it and then maybe put some wax in it as suggested. Thanks guys!
  7. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    I too would be uncomfortable, taking off the neck from any of my basses.:)
  8. 202dy

    202dy Supporting Member

    Sep 26, 2006
    It's just lumber and removable fasteners.

    On the other hand, professional techs everywhere thank you for your reticence.
  9. bass12

    bass12 And Grace, too

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    It could be that the pocket or the neck is not totally flat/even and might need a tiny bit of sanding (this was the case with one of my basses. I'd take it to a luthier and I would also stay away from bending the neck. ;)
  10. JLS


    Sep 12, 2008
    Emeryville, Ca
    I setup & repair guitars & basses
  11. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY Supporting Member

    JLS or 202 will be glad to help. Cha Ching.
  12. Turnaround

    Turnaround Commercial User

    May 6, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Independent Instrument Technician, and Contractor to Club Bass and Guitar - Toronto
    If it were my bass, I'd be a bit concerned. If the neck screws are tight there will be no movement of the neck to body joint. Sometimes truss rods creak when adjusted and maybe it's that same creak you are hearing. But maybe not. I would want to know exactly what is causing it.

    On the other hand, I don't think it is anything serious. My guess is that it will eventually go away. So unless you are OCD, ignore it (even though I couldn't). If you can't ignore it, best see a specialist to be sure. No "Ca-Ching" about it- a decent technician will give you an opinion about its seriousness at no charge. The fix might cost a chunk if you believe the diagnosis. So my advice is to get the diagnosis and if the cost to fix seems a bit pricey, ask for opinions on the cost here before proceeding.
  13. JLS


    Sep 12, 2008
    Emeryville, Ca
    I setup & repair guitars & basses
    This is a concern.
  14. all_sixes


    Mar 15, 2013
    Welp, I ended up sending the bass to San Luis Obispo for an inspection and it turns out that the creaking was caused by the truss rod. I suppose that would explain why it was so hard to adjust, as well.

    Regardless, they told me that they were going to be building a brand new neck for it, and it will take up to 30 days!
  15. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    if it hadn't been a truss rod issue (pretty unusual), here's the fix for a loose neck-body joint:

    first, make sure the screws slip through the body and only thread into the neck! this is critical, and something way too many factories get wrong, especially on lower-end stuff. if the screws are threading into the body too, then they'll stop against the body before they get full force on the neck, and it'll be loose no matter how hard you try to tighten them.

    remove one neck screw (won't hurt anything) and push it back in; check that it slides through the body and only stops when it hits the neck. if it stops in the body, you need to go ahead and take the bass apart and drill out the body holes. (yeah i know, but it has to be done :()

    once that is sorted, and you're tuned up, here's the other step: loosen all the neck screws a quarter turn! you might even hear a creak when the last screw is loosened.

    this will allow the string tension to pull the butt-end of the neck down hard against the body, eliminating any micro gap and improving the wood-to-wood connection.

    push and pull the neck so that the outside strings are lined up with the edges, then re-tighten the neck screws.

    when you're done you might find the bass sounds a little more "solid", with better sustain. it should also hopefully no longer creak from the neck sliding around.
  16. all_sixes


    Mar 15, 2013
    Hey thanks for the tip! I'll keep that in mind next time I have a loose neck joint.
  17. BillyCrashed


    Apr 21, 2013
    walterw...Thanks for that info. I got a DIY bass as a gift and noticed that the bolts thread through the body. just one of the (little problems) you get with a cheap DIY kit from Ebay. there are more, oh yes, there are more.
  18. jcanderson


    Apr 13, 2013
    Los Altos, CA
    I'm curious which kit you got. I've been eyeing them, thinking that it might be a fun project, but I'm hesitant because I haven't seen much info regarding their quality.

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