Need a cab for Faital pro Genz Benz gnx12350

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by wyleeboxer, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. wyleeboxer

    wyleeboxer Supporting Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Orange County, CA
    AB015365-7942-4478-91D5-1BFB9F4CD0C9.jpeg Have this speaker sitting around and would like to match a cab for it, maybe there’s a particular quality used cab with blown driver that would work that I could hunt down and/or preferably with a 12” + 6” mid driver configuration, like the Avatar sb126 cabs. Not sure if Avatar sells cabs separate or maybe I can find a used Avatar sb112 then find the mid driver and crossover to install in place of the tweeter?

    Just looking for a little project to make use of this speaker :)
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  2. BasturdBlaster


    Feb 19, 2012
    Crandon WI
    I would reach out to Avatar and ask for an unloaded cab, I bet there's a good chance he'll sell you one:):thumbsup:
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  3. Platano Muse

    Platano Muse

    Mar 31, 2013
    Long Beach
    Wow, have same speaker new, and constantly looking for a good cab solution for it. A 12/6 configuration sounds interesting..
  4. BogeyBass

    BogeyBass Inactive

    Sep 14, 2010
    Is this a high excursion type driver that lacks sensitivity and has typical highend roll off

    or is it a Decent fullrange driver that has enough top end.
    6" isnt really necessary if the high end is good.

    that driver isnt much different than many 12" drivers a " quasi" 3rd alignment wont be far away from 1.8 to 2.2 cubic feet and a tuning of 40 to 45 hz. Ideally for bass regardless of snob design keeping the reflex away from the bass fundamental. And not tuning to a high 4th order Q or making the box too small using the typical " more power handling" excuses youll get. if you did want a " quasi" 4th order then youd typically raise Q with a smaller box and tune higher above speaker Fs around 50 to 55hz for 12". Driver is what driver is any decent 12" for bass will be happy in 1.8 to 2.2 cubic feet. Depend on the actual Vas and if its designed to go in a smaller or larger box. the only real problem youll get is a box that is too small for a driver that needs more airspace is things will get boomy.

    Speaker Hardware
    has flatpacks of all the usual Kool Aid jipple japper found on here.

    You can get a Fearful 12/6 flatpack =

    greenboy fEARful DIY Flat Pack Speaker Kit

    Or for just one 12" use Bills Simplexx 1x12 cabinet

    Bill Fitzmaurice Simplexx 12� DIY Flat Pack Pro Audio Speaker Kit

    The Green turd cabinets use a mid and have cutout for a tweet. Another option would be the Fearful " sub" which is for a single 12" and has no cutouts for a 6" or a tweet. It is simply a 12" reflex cabinet with a slot port. usually the kool aid cabinets are high tuned. apparently they actually tune the " sub" to a fairly normal 45 hz and should work fine.

    speaker hardware " sub" flatpack shows a picture with the cutouts for 6" and tweet. it shouldnt have this. id call speaker hardware and confirm if you just want a 12" cab with no mid/ tweet cutouts. Question be. is the sub flatpack without cutouts and were you just to lazy to take another picture of the actual kit

    greenboy fEARful DIY Flat Pack Speaker Kit
  5. abarson


    Nov 6, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    If I recall, Avatar bought out the remaining Genz-Benz stock and these speakers were used in the Shuttle line of cabinets. Someone recently built their own rendition of a Shuttle cabinet, not sure how to search for that thread.
  6. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    Correct, they bought some of the parts that Fender wasn't able to use.

    These drivers were designed to extract better performance in a smaller box, they are not a stock Faital driver even though Avitar calls them a 12PR300 (which ranks higher in an internet search of course ;) ).

    I recall them optimized for around 1.5-2.5CF but will work fine in a larger box. All of this assumes proper enclosure tuning of course. Be sure you use the data they provide and not the stock data
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  7. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    If this is similar to the 12PR300 it can likely work in smaller enclosures.
  8. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    It's different than the 12PR300.
  9. BogeyBass

    BogeyBass Inactive

    Sep 14, 2010
    Small , smaller and smaller

    the market has demand for lighter and smaller.

    whenever the very comfortable 2 cubic feet becomes to big for some reason.

    Can optimize drivers to get squeezed into 1.4 to 1.8 boxes.
    Otherwise typical good performer would be to boomy in small box.

    Ideal Q for alot of 12" would be in even larger 3 cubic even 4 cubic boxes

    But are squeezed into the typical 2 cubers, which offers the usual extra power handling
    more acceptable survival rate.

    Guess the good news is this thing apparently will drop into smaller or average 12" boxes.

    whatever is considered proper tuning would be well over 50 plus alignments
    which will range from 7 to 12hz below or above speaker FS. opinions will vary just as much as heated debates
    on the fishing forums. on bait and hook choices lol

    meaning whatever generic empty cab that pops up. from 1.6 to 2.2 go for it.
    As for whats ideal, the only worry would be being to boomy which doesnt seem to be a problem.

    as far as if the cabs are tuned from 45 to 55 hz is all opinion on how annoying of a high tune you like