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Need advise on the best budget Pre-amp

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by jerryjg, Nov 10, 2006.

  1. jerryjg


    Aug 20, 2006
    heres the deal. I have a 600 watt BUllfrog Alumabass cabinet with two 15's and a peavey CS 400 power amp. I ned the best value preamp to make up the rig. I think Peavey is the way to go from what I have seen. Possibly carvin? Will the PeaveyCS400 poweramp make a good bass amp with a good preamp? EDIT_IM sorry, i meant the Bullfrog cabinet has two 15's, NOT two 12's.
  2. Trevorus


    Oct 18, 2002
    Urbana, IL
    Sansamp RBI.
  3. Brendan

    Brendan Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    On a budget? Tech 21 SansAmp of some variety
  4. New. BBE Bmax
    Used. Yamaha PB-1
  5. bebass

    bebass Sho Me Music Commercial User

    Sep 3, 2006
    Bolivar, Missouri
    Authorized dealer for Bergantino, Dingwall, Genzler, Phil Jones Bass, Cort, Traynor
    For years I had a similar setup with a CS400 into a 215 cab.
    I used 3 different PV pre's, a groove tube pre and something else that I can't remember.
    My suggestion is to get the RBI. I have seen them used in our classifieds for a steal. I have one and like it a lot.
    The old CS400 did well - thrown uncased into the back of the truck, treated very hard, and it kept on ticking. But I found it was easy to run out of headroom and finally upgraded at the time to a cs800. I now have a 1200 watt amp. But within the volume that the cs400 does you just can't beat it. Probably much tougher than the amp I have now (or most other amps).
  6. IMO Bmax or RBI. You can find both used for around $200.
  7. cb56


    Jul 2, 2000
    Another vote for anything by Tech 21.
    I'm using the stomp box version with great results,
    but if you can get the RBI used for a good price, all the better.
  8. bmax.
  9. Tech21 BDDI or RBI for a dirtier tone

    If your after a crystal sound, the Presonus TubePre looks pretty nice! (Its a mic pre, no EQ, but, cheap and nice )
  10. greenboy


    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    I replaced an Alembic F1X with a Peavey Max and ended up with more tones and EQ - and a few $100 bills in my pocket. Also did a mod to the tube side for more overdrive.
  11. Lowtonejoe

    Lowtonejoe Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Pasco, WA
    Definitely get a Sansamp RBI.

    Set your input gain somewhere between 10 and 2:00, turn the blend all the way down, set the EQ to 12:00 and put the output volume to around 9 - 2:00 depending on how loud you need it.

    If you like the tone of your bass, these settings will either work for you or be a great starting point. But be carefull with the blend knob, if you start using too much processing you will have a hard time hearing yourself as it will 'process' (aka 'suck the') tone right out of your bass!


    The newer Sansamp Bass Driver Pedals will push a power amp also.


  12. The benefit of the Sansamp BDDI is that even if you buy a different preamp down the line, you still have a great little stomp box.

    If you're trying to get one second hand, make sure it's the newer version, not the 1 one pictured above.
    The new 1 has more switches on the front, has a hotter output & will make a better standalone preamp.

    Otherwise, just keep an eye on E-Bay & try to grab a bargain.
    I've seen SVT IIP preamps go for about $150.
  13. Surprised no one has mentioned the SWR IOD... Not budget when new by any stretch, but you can occasionally find them used for a good price. Also I love my Grand Prix. New though, BBE or the RBI are killer.
  14. Masher88

    Masher88 Believe in absurdities and you commit atrocities

    May 7, 2005
    Cleveland, OH
    I vote Sansamp RBI also. Rackmountable, clean to distorted sounds under $200. good vlaue, good sound...XLR output with it's own volume knob for live and recording...sound men LOVE that feature!
    can't go wrong!
  15. bebass

    bebass Sho Me Music Commercial User

    Sep 3, 2006
    Bolivar, Missouri
    Authorized dealer for Bergantino, Dingwall, Genzler, Phil Jones Bass, Cort, Traynor
    Killer looking rig.
    I am curious, have you tried putting the 15 on the bottom and the 210 on the top. Looks like you would have better bass response that way. Unless the 210's are tuned lower than the 15?
  16. Lowtonejoe

    Lowtonejoe Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Pasco, WA
    Thanks man, I think so too.


    Exactly, the 210 has more booty than the 115 so it gets to play on the bottom. When I first put the rig together a few years ago I put the 115 on the bottom but was never quite happy. Then one day just for grins I decided to try the 210 on the top and that is where it has stayed (when using both cabs together) since.

    The Eden D210XLT is the only 210 cab I have heard that I would use alone except for in the smallest venues. But then I guess that depends on the kind of music you play.


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