Need Help Identifying My Bass

Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by spooonius, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. spooonius

    spooonius Supporting Member

    Jun 23, 2013
    Southern California
    Former Endorsing Artist: Warwick
    I found this bass in a small music shop in Istanbul about 15 years ago. There was only one string on it and it was basically being used to hold the door open. Needless to say, I got a great deal on it. I've never been able to find out the maker and origin (other than the Russian label), but I'm hoping the community here can help.

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    I'm not sure yet of the best way to include images, so please bear with me while I figure it out. I've got a lot more images, so as soon as i figure it out, I'll post them.
     
  2. mlz77096

    mlz77096

    Oct 16, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Can't help you with the ID, but I sure like that shape. How does it play?
     
  3. Edvin

    Edvin

    Feb 25, 2010
    Sweden
    russian/soviet?
    Does it say 1971 in the middle to the right?
     
  4. spooonius

    spooonius Supporting Member

    Jun 23, 2013
    Southern California
    Former Endorsing Artist: Warwick
    It plays great. It has a nice full bottom and a bit of a growl. I think the tag says 1970. I wish I could read Russian. It's a little bigger than a 3/4 and pretty heavy too.
     
  5. spooonius

    spooonius Supporting Member

    Jun 23, 2013
    Southern California
    Former Endorsing Artist: Warwick
    Update: I showed the label to a Russian neighbor and he told me that it was from a factory in Moscow. He translated the round text to "Moscow musician instrument company"
     
  6. yes this is indeed a soviet hybrid bass made by Moscow factory.

    id come up with more information if i could look at it's back.

    we've got a lot of these instruments and they're very cheap in Russia. good basses but you need a lot to be done to the one if you want it sound nice. these were made for several decades from the 40s to 90s maybe and the quality varies very much. first basses were Otto's flatback copies. these were true 3\4 hybrid basses. theres an original Otto's carved bass of the same measures in moscow conservatory. I'm not sure of the measures but I could measure one at home when i get there next week. these were the best soundiung basses that are very rarely found nowadays. they swiched to bigger basses with regular 3\4 scale and carved top and back later. these were made fith far less precision but still sounded very good. the fretboard and talipiece were painted and they used regular furniture glue so these are just a sturdy workhorses. several models were made with laminated\carved back, d neck always. the darker sounding ones were covered with red lacquer, the brighter ones got the yellower finish. the quality dropped significally in the late 80s and the factory closed in the 90s cause there vas very little demand and overall economical decrease.

    again, id come up with more information on soviet basses and your bass in particular if there's any interest in these.
     
  7. spooonius

    spooonius Supporting Member

    Jun 23, 2013
    Southern California
    Former Endorsing Artist: Warwick
    Thanks for the great information, I really appreciate it! For years I've wondered about this bass, but no one has really been able to tell me about it. I've attached some pics of the back to the post. I'm at work so these are all I have right now, but if you need something more, let me know. Also, a poster in another forum told me it's from the Lira factory in Moscow.
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  8. hey,

    thanks for posting these. I used to own exactly the same bass for quite a long time, this looks like an early '70s to me. sorry im on my mobile maybe there's a production date at the label. this looks like a carved back to me, so this bass should have a chunky D neck like mine. they went back to laminated back and a slim neck profile later in the 70s for a short period of time but the factory was focused on furniture production at that time so they were not nearly as good as the early flatbacks.

    most of these basses are now in a very poor state and still cost very little. they are much heavier than european basses but the sound is very rich and well suited for orchestra. wery much like rubner basses, they are ill suited for pizz, to me.

    thanks for posting. the whole idea of these basses presence anywhere but russia is pretty new to me ))

    Sasha
     
  9. spooonius

    spooonius Supporting Member

    Jun 23, 2013
    Southern California
    Former Endorsing Artist: Warwick
    Yes, it's pretty heavy with a carved back and a chunky neck (and it also needs some work). I've used it as my main bass for mostly jazz over the last 15 years, so it has great value to me. I'd like to take it in to fix a busted seam in the back and for any other structural issues they find. A couple more pictures:
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