Need help on essentials for a new rig.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Hugh Jazz, Sep 26, 2001.

  1. Hugh Jazz

    Hugh Jazz Guest

    Sep 13, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    I'm getting a whole new setup (probably Mesa), and I was thinking about all the stuff I'll need.

    I'd like some advice on the following (i'll include my thoughts/current situation on each):

    Rack Case: Looking at SKB's right now (the rig will stay in the practice space, until we start gigging, which won't be until towards the end of the year). I'm specifically looking at "regular" SKB racks and the Roto racks. Rotos are cheaper and apparantly much lighter (which is good), but is the quality really bad? I don't want to spend extra money for nothing.

    Tuner: Considering the Korg DTR-2. See below as well.

    Power Conditioner: Furman is probably the way to go. I'm looking at the PL-8 (what are differences in the quality of the different models?). The PL-Plus with the lights would be cool, but it's a waste.
    Since I'm also looking at a tuner, I've been looking at the PL-Tuner. But I have a few concerns about that: Is the tuner any good (in comparison to the Korg, keeping the price difference in mind)? Also, the tuner has the inputs in the front, while the amp has the tuner out in the back. Now I know I could connect my bass straight into the tuner, and then out into the amp, but I'd like to make use of the tuner out of the amp. From looking pictures of the Korg DTR-2, it appears that it has inputs in back (and I think in the front as well). That would be very convenient because I would have to worry about all the excess cables bunching up. That, and I only need one cable when using the tuner out. Let me know your thoughts on the issue.

    Cables, Cords: This is pretty basic. I want good quality cables (ones that won't die) to connect my bass to the amp and the amp to the speakers. I refuse to pay $50+ for 2 foot cables :rolleyes:. That's just ridiculous, and I there's no way I can afford that. I want ~15-20 ft cord for the bass-amp connection, and something shorter 2-4 ft. for the amp-speaker connection. If you have any recommendations for cables/cords for these applications, please let me know (I dont' mind paying $1 or $1.50 per foot of cable).

    If anyone can help me out with this, I'd be eternally grateful. Well maybe not eternally...unless my setup and I last that long...but you get the point. :D
  2. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Saint Louis, MO USA
    I would spring for a nice rack. You are going to have a ton of money in your gear and you want maximum protection. SKB stuff is OK in my opinion. IF you don't want to lug the extra weight of an Anvil style box, it is probably the way to go. I recommend the top end stuff for a few reasons. It is tougher, it seals "water tight" on the front and rear and most importantly, it has rear rails. You can run your power conditioner and other stuff on the rear rails and you end up with a smaller, better balanced rack.

    I would definately go with the Korg tuner. The PL tuner works ok, but it is so small, you'll have to walk right up to your amp to tune. The Korg is automatic and can be seen from accross the stage. As far as set up goes, if your amp's tuner out has a footswitch, I'd go that way. IF not, you can place the Korg tuner in-line between the pre and power and use the footswitch on it. It is important to be able to mute and tune silently. No one wants to hear you tune.

    Any quality namebrand cable is fine. I use the DiMarzio braided ones for no other reason that I like the way they look. They are about $1 a foot.

    Use the shortest cables possible between items in the rack. Just make sure you are using a cable designed as a speaker cable and of appropreate guage for the power use to run from the power amp to the cabinet.

  3. Nails

    Nails Guest

    Jun 4, 2000
    Austin, Tejas
    Personally I prefer wooden rackcases to SKB's stuff. Granted amps are metal an could take a good bit of a beating, but if I'm shelling out the big bucks for an amp I want more than a plastic wrapping. I'm not saying SKB's are bad, I haven't owned one so I don't know how they hold up compared to wood cases. It's more a mental thing. I feel safer with a wooden case than a plastic SKB.

    I love Korg tuners, I use a discontinued DTR1-Pro, which is basically a DTR2 but black. Deadly accurate, and amazingly fast. I've never seen the Furman Tuner/Power Supply in person, so I don't know how it holds up. I do like Furman's power supplies, I use a PL-8. Haven't used the lights too much, but I haven't gigged with it yet. I'm sure it'll come in handy on dark stages. See if you can try both out, and you could still use the tuner out of your amp you'd just need a longer cable. I like the idea of both tuner and power supply together, don't know how it comes together though.

    I use a monster cable to go from my amp to cab, haven't had a problem with it in two years. As for bass to amp, the brand I'm using is Horizon. I've only seen them in one store in West Texas, but they may be everywhere where you live. I've used this same cable around 2 years, and it's never given me any problems.
  4. Hugh Jazz

    Hugh Jazz Guest

    Sep 13, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Thanks guys.

    Anyone else have any thoughts?
  5. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    I am going to check out those Planet Waves cables by DiMarzio -- I'll let you know how they pan out when I get 'em.
  6. Hugh Jazz

    Hugh Jazz Guest

    Sep 13, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Thanks! I really appreciate that.